Dear Thomas, You ask interesting questions and the answers depend slightly on just how precisely you want the model the way the sun goes round the ecliptic.
QUESTION 1 ... do [Gemini and Cancer] share *exactly* the same region [on a sundial] or not? I think it is reasonable to DEFINE the 12 regions of the Zodiac as being bounded at 30-degree intervals of solar *longitude*. So Aries extends from 0 to 30 and so on. On the ecliptic, these 12 regions are distinct and there is no sharing. When you look at the corresponding intervals of solar *declination* you do, as you say, get sharing. In your example: Sign Longitude Declination range range Gemini 60 to 90 20.15 to 23.44 Cancer 90 to 120 23.44 to 20.15 As you see, Gemini and Cancer share the same range of declinations but for Gemini the declination is increasing and for Cancer is decreasing. The answer to your question is YES. So far, this theory has nothing to do with the *shape* of the Earth's orbit but it does assume that the orbit is a plane which is isn't exactly. [Solar latitude hovers around zero but it isn't exactly zero. A REALLY pedantic discussion about whether Gemini and Cancer exactly overlap would take a book!] You then ask about dates. That makes the story very much more complicated but it doesn't stop Gemini and Cancer sharing the same region on a sundial. QUESTION 2 Is the starting date May 20 of one in line with the end-date July 22 of the other or not? You go too fast. Who says the starting date is May 20? It sometimes is and it sometimes isn't. You have to worry about the leap-year cycle and Pope Gregory XIII and his friends. At the moment we are living close to the middle of an almost 200-year run of pure Julian calendar. There are no omitted leap-years between 1904 and 2096 inclusive. This means there is a steady drift in all the dates you are interested in. The starting *declination* of one IS in line with the ending *declination* of the other but when you worry about dates everything becomes harder. The only sensible answer to this second question is NO. It is no because the dates change from year to year. See the answer to Question 4, but first... QUESTION 3 The angles of the ecliptic longitude for the zodiacs are equally distributed (each 30°), [YES that's right] but what about the angles in the earth's orbit around the sun (ellipse)? I don't quite understand this. The ecliptic longitude is the same as the angle of the Earth's orbit round the sun (though you might want to change the sign or add 180 degrees). The answer is THEY ARE THE SAME. QUESTION 4 And what about the dates? They are horrible! I have already said there is a steady drift in the dates but it is worse than that because of the precession of the equinoxes. The answer is THE DATES ARE A MESS and... QUESTION 5 The lengths (in terms of time) of the zodiacs are not equal, but are they constant each year? The answer is UNFORTUNATELY NO. It is easy to see that they are not constant by thinking about this time of year. We have just entered the sign of Capricorn and at this time of year the Earth is closest to the sun. That's good news because it gets winter over quicker. Capricorn doesn't last long! Also, this explains why the lengths are not constant. Unfortunately, there will come a time when we are furthest from the sun in winter. Capricorn will take longer and we could find the northern hemisphere covered in ice. [ There will then be conferences about trying to raise the levels of carbon dioxide :-) ] QUESTION 6 Can anybody give me a better reference than Wikipedia... The best thing you can do is to ask your girlfriend to buy you a copy of "Astronomical Algorithms" by Jean Meeus as a Christmas present. You can then write a proper program to model the Earth-Sun system. It took me about 2000 lines of code before I was happy with it but it is a very good way of answering your questions! Best wishes Frank --------------------------------------------------- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial