Hi,

My father told me that during WWII in London, the 'date problem' was a constant hazard between the British and the American commands, and that, as in John Pickard's herbarium, they eventually standardised on using Roman Numerals for the months.

best wishes,

Peter

On 13/11/2013 10:17 AM, John Pickard wrote:
I couldn't agree more about the confusion Paul. But as an Australian, I find 
the US system close to an abomination. But the non-US system(s) will gradually 
fade as Bill Gates continues his inexorable Americanisation (i.e. 
bastardisation) of the English language, and people are too lazy or stupid to 
change the formats to e.g. Australian English and dates rather than accept his 
defaults.

For many years I worked in a herbarium where we had plant collections going 
back to the 1700s. Dates were always given as day / month / year in an 
unambiguous format using roman numerals for month: 13.xi.2013. Because the 
collections covered several centuries, the year was never abbreviated to two 
digits.

It's not just dates that are confusing, it's also time of day. I can only shake 
my head at Virgin Airlines which lists all the departure and arrival times on 
their website in 12-hour format, but uses 24-hour on the e-tickets. At least 
the new urban public transport timetables released in Sydney a few weeks ago 
have changed from 12-hour to 24-hour format.

I have to confess to arriving at Sydney airport for a 6:30 flight, but when I 
tried to
check-in, I was told it was only possible 4 hours before departure, and my flight was at 
18:30! As Homer J. would say "D'oh!"

Cheers, John

Dr John Pickard

john.pick...@bigpond.com

---- Sunclocks North America <sunclock...@icloud.com> wrote:

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This has always been a pet peeve of mine!
All of these differing date formats are confusing, as you can never really be 
sure
which one people are using.  Here in Canada, it's even worse because some 
people put
the month first like in the USA and others put the day first and yet others put 
the
year first!  Nobody can be sure if something like 10/11/12 means October 11th 
2012,
November 10th 2012 or November 12th 2010!  At least now that we're in 2013, 
some of
that confusion is gone for the next 87 years.
I think that the best way which everyone in the world understands is to start a 
four
digit year: yyyy/mm/dd, and all the confusion goes away with the simple 
addition of two
characters.  Plus the dates can be easily sorted numerically.  It's pretty much 
the
only date format I ever use unless I spell out the month.

Paul Ratto
SunClocks North America


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