I would like to add two arguments to the questions under discussion: 1. Prof. Şimşek said: “On the North Parados passage in the Western Theater, which dates back to the Hellenistic Era, in the ancient city we have found a spherical sundial facing south, which we believe to be 2,020 years old.
This is a kind of conclusion which does not help by dating the dial. A comparison with similar specimens reveals that it was probably done around 200 – 400 CE. 2. “Inscribed on the dial are the Greek word ‘Ksimerini’, or winter on the upper part; ‘Isimerini’, or solstice, which denotes the equality of day and night in the middle; and ‘Terini’, or summer in the bottom.” I read (ΤΡΟΠH) ΧΕ(Ι)ΜΕΡΙΝH / IΣΗΜΕΡΙΝH / (ΤΡΟΠH) ΘΕΡΙΝH. These are the names of the solstices and the equinoxes. What is conspicuous is the missing of I in χειμερινή (it should be written with diacritic signs). That is another strong argument that it was done in the Roman era. With best wishes Karlheinz Schaldach From: Michael Ossipoff Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 5:11 AM To: Maes, F.W. Cc: Sundial List Subject: Re: Denizli sundial "Inscribed on the dial are the Greek word ‘Ksimerini’, or winter on the upper part No doubt "Merini" referring to "day", related to "Mera", meaning "Day", combined with "Xi-", which must mean something like "longest". ; ‘Isimerini’, or solstice, which denotes the equality of day and night in the middle; and ‘Terini’, or summer in the bottom." The middle line is for the equinoxes, not a solstice. If it says "Isimerini", then that combines "-merini", referreing to "Day", and something obviously likely to be related to "Iso-" which we all know to mean "same" or "equal". Ksimerini would in Greek start with Ξ (ksi), but a close look at the initial, hi-res photo strongly suggests that the first character is X (chi) Yes, that column of horizontal lines is the Greek capital "Ksee" (as pronounced in English). The lower case would look like a more or less vertical squiggly line. It's pronounced like our English "X". Yes, the Greek letter written as "X", is pronounced like aspirated "k", as in "Loch" or "Achtung". ...and its name "chi", is pronounced in English with that consonant-sound, though we often hear it said as just a "k". I didn't notice the "T" in the word on the Summer-Solstice line. It looked. to me, just like Merine on the top 2 lines, and Erini on the bottom--line. Michael Ossipoff Aprilis 10th, 2020 Aries 22nd 16 F You wrote: , in accordance with what John Davis and John Wilson's wife read. So it seems the names are spelled as follows: XIMEPINH = winter solstice IΣHMEPINH = equinox TEPINH = summer solstice in which X is Greek chi, P is Greek rho, H is Greek eta. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
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