On Sep 27, 2011, at 1:04 AM, Jim Klimov wrote:
> 2011-09-23 18:37, Brad wrote:
>>> Actually I'd love to hear on that from the list's experts: can the
>>> Sun/Oracle software be used for free in production (without asking
>>> for support) according to currently active rules?
>>
>> Sun Ray software cannot be used for free. The eDelivery download is a trial.
>> You must license your Software with either the "Named User" or "Sun Ray
>> Device" license. One method licenses devices connecting or specific users.
>> We do not have a concurrent licensing model.
>>
>> Oracle also stresses the importance of purchasing support. There are patches
>> that are released to My Oracle Support in between major releases. Also
>> Oracle has a policy that if you need support after the license purchase
>> time, you need to pay a "true-up" fee.
>>
>> I definitely urge everyone on this list to read the Oracle Licensing rules
>> for exact details so that you know if you are in compliance or not.
>>
>>>
>>> I believe somebody sometime has already paid for RTU when the DTUs
>>> were originally purchased. What if that was a different end-user
>>> (i.e. for DTUs found from Amazon/eBay)? Must RTU be purchased again?
>>>
>>
>> The Sun Ray "RTU" does not follow the device. The license you purchase is
>> for Sun Ray Software to allow clients to connect. Whether it's OVDC or a
>> physical Sun Ray connecting, your Sun Ray software needs to be licensed for
>> those connections.
>>
>
> Hm... In modern terms, is RTU a separate license (something to purchase) or
> one of the above (i.e. Sun Ray Device license)?
The "RTU" that Sun sold serves the same purpose as the Oracle Named User/Sun
Ray Client license.
Sun Sold:
Sun Ray Software Right to Use (Licensed by concurrent user) (Required
for Sun Ray and OVDC clients)
Sun Ray Software support (Paid based on # of RTU's)
Sun Ray Device Support (Extended support and exchange for Sun Ray
Devices)
Oracle Sells:
Sun Ray Software License (Licensed by Named User+ or Client Device)
(Required for Sun Ray and OVDC clients)
Sun Ray Software Support (Paid based on # of Sun Ray Software Licenses)
Sun Ray Device Support (Extended Support and quick exchange for
Devices. Is required for Firmware right to firmware updates)
If you intend to do a VDI installation, you won't purchase Sun Ray licenses at
all. You will purchase VDI licenses.
VDI software and licenses include the Sun Ray technology, the Broker components
and the usage of the Virtual Box hypervisor. VDI can be installed on Oracle
Linux/RHEL or Solaris. Support for the underlying OS is priced separately.
VDI is licensed also by Named User or Client Device.
>
> If possible, can you provide the link to Oracle Licensing rules and outline
> which licenses and supports (best of all - with which list prices) would be
> relevant to some customer building a VDI solution with the Sun/Oracle stack
> (SRSS, SGD, VDI, VirtualBox or OracleVM, Solaris at least for server and
> storage environments, DSEE for user/network/etc. directory) on Sun and
> non-Sun x86 hardware (a farm of servers or an OEM blade box comes to mind)?
>
> As I gather from numerous forums, even two years after the merge, many people
> have problems buying Oracle stuff not only because of pricing and vague
> understanding of Oracle licensing, but because even their sellers don't know
> what and how to sell.
>
> So having some (semi-)official lineup at least for this small subject would
> be nice :)
>
> Thanks in advance,
> //Jim
>
Brad Lackey | Technical Enablement Manager
Mobile: +13038758616
Oracle Global Desktop Virtualization
San Diego , CA
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