Hi Garry,

it's worth a look, our first Oracle VDI license contained also the right to use 
SGD. We use SGD as the Backup System for external Users to connect to WTS 2008 
R2, if the Sun Ray Server dies for some reason.

Anyway the current version still uses java runtime on the client instead of 
HTML5, which makes me not to happy except for iPads, which can connect without 
Java.

But I admit, even if Secure Global Desktop is safe, it's left a bad taste in my 
mouth really.

regards, thomas

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[mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von Garry Taylor
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Betreff: Re: [SunRay-Users] Sun Ray alternatives?

Hi Curtis,
Thanks for the info, to be honest I think I'd probably rather steer clear of 
Oracle stuff. With what happened with Sun Ray, even if Secure Global Desktop is 
safe, it's left a bad taste in my mouth really. Also, we're a very small 
operation, and although our Sun rep. was pretty helpful, I can't really see 
Oracle feeling the same way about the pennies we'll send their way!

At the moment I'm looking at Axel devices, like the AX3000, they might be 
perfect for me, I expect I'll get one to try out. Axel are a small company too, 
so probably a bit more inclined to deal with other small companies.

Cheers

Garry

On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 10:18 PM, Curtis Cunningham 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi  Garry,

long time lurker here, but felt I could offer input, this (Secure Global 
Desktop, aka Tarantella) may be able to help you:
http://www.oracle.com/us/technologies/virtualization/secure-global-desktop/overview/index.html

be sure to check out the details on the resources page here:
http://www.oracle.com/us/technologies/virtualization/secure-global-desktop/resources/index.html

product documentation here:
http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E37459_01/index.html

Yes ironically it's another Oracle product, but the reports are that this will 
stick around. I worked as a developer on this when it was originally 
Tarantella, and it's been around a long time, very mature, very stable. Higher 
profit margins (no hardware component) makes me optimistic this will persist.

I'm suggesting it based purely on your stated requirements, which didn't 
include using only a Sun Ray hardware device, so if you have other more 
conventional clients your users can use, then this may work for you. It'll work 
from the smallest seat installation ( a handful of seats) to thousands of 
concurrent users and has been doing that for about a decade. Authentication 
methods are super flexible (LDAP, AD, local UNIX groups/users, anonymous/ kiosk 
style), application persistence is highly configurable (including never ending 
the session unless the user kills the app/ desktop instance).

Good luck!
Curtis.

~~
Curtis Cunningham
email: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
web: http://curtiscunningham.com




On Jul 16, 2013, at 6:19 AM, Garry Taylor 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

OK, before I go ahead and buy another Sun Ray... With the bad news about Sun 
Ray's future, it makes sense to check out the alternatives. My needs are fairly 
basic:

We run Solaris 10 on SPARC, this will not change.

We need to maintain a persistent desktop on this server, and have able to be 
accessed by several people in worldwide locations, does not need to be at the 
same time though. The desktop should persist all of the time, no logouts, when 
another user wants to use the desktop, it's simply moved to their client, and 
removed from the other user. This is how our Sun Ray set up works right now.

We run  a CDE/Solaris desktop, no need for Windows.

Does not need to be fast, just needs to work.

So what exactly are the options here? Wyse, nComputing? I really don't know. 
Sun Ray has been perfect for us for years, and I've never looked into anything 
else. RealVNC?

The critical part is the desktop cannot need to be logged out to transfer to 
another thin client.

Cheers

Garry
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