At 07:58 -0400 04/19/2002, Phillip L.Meza wrote:
>Hello Listers, Anyone using DVD on their machines (S900)? Can anyone
>point me in the right direction as to which drive to purchase. I am
>using 2 drives internally now Matshita CD-ROM & Yamaha CDRW , I would
>like to install the CDROM into a 2nd machine I have. Anyone deal with
>a reseller in Los Angeles - AllAppleMac.com (ICNI)? They have a few
>Maxpowr Cards on hand, prices seem rather high?

I am using an Acer 16X DVD/40X CDROM drive attached to a VST 
UltraTech/66 ATA66 card (IDE).    It works flawlessly using Apple's 
DVD/CDROM Extension in both OS 9.1 and 8.6.   The ATAPI support on 
the VST card is very good.

I use this drive with a Wired4DVD card and DVDs play very nicely, 
although I ran into a problem with play just stopping and the screen 
image freezing a couple of times.  Didn't freeze up the computer, the 
image just stopped, the sound continued for a few moments and then 
that froze.  Hitting Pause, Play started it up again.  Very odd.  It 
only happened a couple of times, but figured I'd throw that in for 
fairness.

I'm less enthused about the VST card, since I've discovered several 
odd incompatibilities caused by the card, but it really does ATAPI 
drives (CD and DVD related) well.  Note that other more compatible 
ATA cards may do ATAPI as well.

The incompatibilities I've found (YMMV) with the VST include:

1)  Freezes S900/J700 if installed in lower slots unless:

A)  It is the only card in the lower slots
B)  There are no drives connected to the VST Card (useful configuration, huh?)
C)  The only other cards in the lower slots have no onboard firmware 
(e.g. ethernet, USB, firewire cards)
D)  It is in a physically higher (lower numbered) slot than a Twin 
Turbo card (this may have worked once with a 2940U2B but I wasn't 
able to reproduce it).

2)  Under OS 9.1 (and only 9.1) when there is a 2940U2B, E100 or PCI 
Jackhammer installed in the same machine (slot placement does not 
matter for this one) either the machine freezes as the OS starts to 
load, or when the machine boots, all support for HFS+ volumes is 
disabled.  That means that HFS+ volumes do not mount, the option to 
create HFS+ volumes under the Special Menu, Erase Disk item is 
missing and if you do create an HFS+ volume using a third party 
utility such as SoftRAID, the volume will not mount, unless:

A)  I had some luck dropping the firmware of the 2940U2B back to 1.1 
from 1.2 but the problem came back
B)  HFS+ support was present when I had an ancient 9 GB Fast & Wide 
volume on the external connector of the 2940U2B, however that drive 
was formatted with RAID ToolKit 1.8s (that's about eight years old 
and out of date).
C)  Having any bootable CD in the CDROM drive (even though the 
machine was booting from the hard drive) seemed to alleviate the 
problem.

This is a weird one.  I think there are other aspects to this problem 
that I haven't sussed out yet, but removing the VST card makes the 
problems go away.

3)  The presence of the VST card in any slot seems to affect the 
Internal Fast SCSI bus (SCSI Bus 0) such that Retrospect operations 
from devices on Bus 0 fail.   This bodes ill for data integrity on 
Bus 0 devices even if Retrospect isn't being used, because it's been 
my experience that Retrospect is a bit of a canary for SCSI problems. 
It will fail when you have only minor problems you wouldn't have 
noticed ordinarily, but those minor problems, left unfixed, can lead 
to data corruption and loss of entire hard drives in the long run. 
This problem also bears more investigating.  But I tested many times, 
and the VST card present made Bus 0 useless for Retrospect operations 
under various OS versions.   Another test to try would be to see if 
MacBench Disk tests will complete for a volume on Bus 0 when the VST 
card is present.  MacBench tends to be good at finding SCSI problems 
too.

Jeff Walther

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