David Nuzum wrote:

On Monday, November 3, 2003, at 02:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


To all you Supermac-kers:
I just thought I'd give you an update on my J-700 escapade. I was able
to produce a boot disk for Disk Tools (OS 7.5.3) and lo and behold, the
J-700 booted (wow!). However, the disk can't see the HD that came with the
computer. I strongly suspect that this drive is DOA. The guy that sold
this to me on eBay said I would need to "load an OS on the computer." I
guess that's because the hard drive is dead. Anyway, I tried this with the
Seagate Barracuda ST118273LC rebuilt hard drive that I picked up, the
computer saw it, but said it was "unsupported." I suspect that this is
because, if I understand this correctly, this hard drive has no internal
termination, but rather, relies on termination from the
controller/motherboard. I'm hoping that I can still use this as a slave
hard drive (I assume that I need to jumper it to an ID setting other than 0.
. .). But, at least I know the computer operates. I've ordered a SCSI HD
on eBay that's been formatted with Apple Hard Drive Set-up and checked with
FWB Hard Drive Toolkit (which I have a copy of). Slowly, but surely, we're
getting there! I'll let you know what happens. Again, thanks mucho to all
of you that have given me input!


Scott Birdwell
DeFalco's Home Wine & Beer Supplies


First the Seagate drive, is it Apple's Drive SetUp that tells you that the drive is unsupported?
Apples drive setup does not support all brands of hard drives and if this is what you using then
" unsupported" simply means unsupported and is not telling you anything about the condition of
the drive.


Now you say you have a copy of FWB, have you tried to format the Seagate using FWB?
The odds are that it will. Assuming the Seagate is good otherwise. Also I think it is worth trying FWB on the
drive that you believe to be DOA.
David in WV
PS. The wording in your messages tells me you are confusing SCSI and ATA Drives.



Hey guys,

The original s900 software CD (OS 7.5.5) came with FWB because Apple's Drive Setup didn't support the drives in the machines. FWB is a paid upgrade to support later revisions of the OS - It is much better to use a later version of Apple's Drive Setup if you wish to play with later versions of MacOS.

That said, both ends of a SCSI chain have to be terminated. The motherboard takes care of its end and supplies term power to the bus, but whatever is on the other end of the cable must be terminated as well. On the original Matsushita 8x CDROM that came with my s900, there is a jumper to provide termination. This is most likely the case with the j700 as well. The actual SCSI IDs should not matter, provided they are unique. If your CDROM has a terminator jumper, then you could set up your chain like so:

Motherboard (always ID 7) -----> HD (ID 0) ----------> CD (ID 3)

with termination enabled on the CDROM (ie a jumper between the two pins). You can have up to 7 devices on the standard SCSI bus in our machines.

tom


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