Gee first I procrastinate, then I want it all done at once!. I tried loading all 4 sticks of new ram at once without luck. Then I read at OWC that the original 8MB sticks can be problematic, so I pulled them, still no luck. Finally I pulled all the ram out, put one new stick in, hit the CUDA and it fired up. I put in another, hit the CUDA and it fired. I did this with each of the 4 new sticks plus two 64mb sticks I'd removed, starting up after adding each stick. Tonight I plan to run the XLR8 Power Control software Will S. sent me a few years ago to test the ram overnight. What comes around goes around- my next step will be to put in an XLR8 board with a 450 G4ZIF, once the memory checks out. Then brace yourselves for the help cries as I begin the upgrade to OSX which I have to do to keep up with retouching tasks in photoshop for a friend who is running PhotoshopCS which only runs on OSX. Thanks again for the support of the group in problemsolving. Oh yes, to Drew Becket- once you have a stable ram instilation you can turn the ram monitor off in the control panel- I ran acorss the how to in the FAQ at the Memory topic at the OWC help site. It's probably also in the Mac Bible- you have to open the Memory control panel and control click something? It'll save you 4 minutes of boot time. Paul
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