Sorry Ryan, I'm using the XLR8 Carrier and OWC Mercury Zif 450 and its been
great ... 1gig of Ram) ... Will S,  I always "Learn" something from your
posts ... indeed the Macfixit and OWC forums always a good read, I think the
10.3.5 "upgrade" is where I'm headed and I think given the "RAM"
requirements this maybe the "end" for us. I seem to recall a very snappy
machine with 10.3.5. Regards Phillip

Oh! Off topic, but I have to ask all listers, "A Sub-$500 Mac (Headless)"
This would suit
me very well ... Happy New Year!

-----Original Message-----
From: SuperMacs List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Will
S
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 5:04 AM
To: SuperMacs List
Subject: Re: [SM] Panther on S900

> From: "Phillip Meza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 22:34:14 -0500
>
> Yes, successful indeed, but have been experiencing odd behavior with 
> the
>  10.3.7 upgrade, probably because of my system config ... Regards, 
> Phillip

Phillip, Your not the only one having issues with 10.3.7 ! (notice I 
refuse to call it an upgrade ;-) Apple rushed out 10.3.7 because of 
complains about bugs in 10.3.6 from newer machine owners. Regretfully 
it's way more buggy then 10.3.6 and most people are complaining about 
it. It was driving me nuts . I ended up doing an archive and fresh 
install of 10.3 from the cd's and then went straight to 10.3.7 full 
update combo install. Things are better but not except-able. Web 
browsers all crash several times a day or more. I use Camino & Firefox 
and they both crash and sometimes require a forced re-start. Safari is 
more stable but crashes from time to time. Using the "Activity Monitor" 
located in the utility folder shows apps are using way more RAM then in 
the past . So even with large amounts of RAM the OS is running out of 
RAM . Camino & Firefox are both using around 50 MB of RAM and apox 350 
MB of Virtual RAM for a total of 400MB of RAM ! Safari uses apox half 
of that which may be the reason it's more stable. If a fix isn't
found soon I will try going back to 10.3.4 or 10.3.5 . Both were good I 
don't remember which was better. 10.3, 10.3.1 and 10.3.2 were also 
buggy and had major issues with SCSI drives. There are a lot of nice 
things about Panther but it has never been as stable as Jaguar though 
10.3.4 & 5 were close.
        It is easy to think it's our old machines and some things are likely

issues because of that. Take a look at macfixit.com and you will see no 
one is happy with 10.3.7 .
>  -----Original Message-----
> On Behalf Of Ryan
>  Chang
>  Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 7:45 PM
>  Hi, I was wondering if anyone has successfully installed Panther on an
>  S900 with a 450 MHz G4 processor upgrade. Thanks
>
>  -Ryan

Yes indeed! I started with OSX on my J700 604e 233 MHz CPU way back 
when with Developer version 3 or was it 4 . Nearly every version has 
been better then the one that came before it. Apple has really screwed 
up with 10.3.7 . Moved up to G3 300 MHz running at 350MHz and then a 
G500 @ 550 MHz for 2 years or so. last June I got a 550 Mhz G4  in a 
Carrier card and it runs at 533 MHz with Panther. You need lots of RAM 
and I can't recommend SCSI hard drives for Panther. It can be done but 
there are issues even with a new machine SCSI didn't work well until 
10.3. 4 or 5 . Best of luck Will S


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