on 6/20/05 10:11 PM, Jeff Walther at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> At 20:55 -0500 06/20/2005, Ansberry wrote:
> 
>> Wow!  2 posts in one night.  That is a record for me.  I usually lurk on
>> this list because there are so many more knowledgable people here than I am.
>> I am a neophyte digital video person and have been learning to convert
>> my family videos to DVDs on my old S900.  I have been asking questions on a
>> forum called "videohelp.com".  The people there have been extremely patient
>> and helpful to me.  But the last time I asked a question over there, one
>> individual told me I need to invest in a "real" Mac.  Not a "new" Mac, but a
>> "real" Mac.  I figure that was a slam at the Umax computer.  My S900 has
>> been a exceptional value, and my C600 did great before I got the S900. Is a
>> 9500 "real" Mac better than the S900?
> 
> No.  The 9500 will only gain you two advantages over the S900.  It
> will eliminate the lower PCI slot issues and it will up your maximum
> RAM from 1040 MB to 1536MB.
> 
> If you're not having PCI card problems and already have enough RAM in
> your S900, then those are not issues.
> 
> The disadvantages of the 9500 as compared to the S900 is that with G4
> processors you may have problems in the lower three PCI slots of the
> 9500.  The 9500 case is a terrible design.  The 9500's motherboard
> cache is more difficult to disable in hardware than the S900's (may
> be a non-issue since this can be done with software), and the S900
> usually supports higher bus speeds.  I have not met an S900 yet that
> won't support at least a 60 MHz bus speed.  The trick is that most
> CPU cards will not work properly at 60 MHz even if they have a
> setting for a speed that high.
> 
> If you get a 9600 that will eliminate the horrible case problem.
> Arguably, the 9600 case is even nicer than the S900 case.  There is
> no doubt that it's nicer than the 9500 case.
> 
> In my opinion, the S900 power supply is easier to replace with a
> standard ATX unit when it wears out than the 9500 is to replace when
> it wears out.  But neither one is a piece of cake to convert.
> 
> However, if your correspondent meant a *newer* Mac, even an early G4
> will have several advantages.  I think the model right after the Blue
> and White--the Black & White?, Gray & White? is a pretty good one.  I
> can't remember the names.  My favorite in a used model would be the
> one with AGP and four PCI slots.
> 
> The problem with the Blue & White is that there was an IDE controller
> issue in that, IIRC.  So I'd avoid that early model, although, if you
> need an ADB bus for some reason, it's hard to pass up.
> 
> IIRC there was the B&W with just three PCI slots and no AGP.  Then
> there were a couple of models with AGP and three PCI slots.  And at
> some point there was a model with AGP and four PCI slots.   Then
> didn't the G5 drop back down to three PCI slots?
> 
> Jeff Walther

Thanks.  Great information, Jeff.  Yea, I know I need "newer" equipment.  I
wouldn't have had a bone to pick if they had said new equipment.  My S900 is
doing what I need it to do for my video and audio work.  I think it is
amazing that a 7 year old machine can do just about anything the new
machines can, just not as quick.  I have a new iBook from school.  (I'm a
teacher) It has a fairly fast G4 in it.  I do the importing, editing and
preparation on the S900, then burn the DVD on the iBook.  It takes about 15
or 16 hours on the S900 to burn a full DVD.  On the iBook it takes about 8
or 10 hours.  I'd love to get a G5 dual 2 Ghz, but it isn't in the monetary
cards.  

Mike


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