On 1/19/2010 6:40 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> Mark Hansen wrote:
>> On 1/11/2010 8:10 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>>> Arne wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mark Hansen wrote:
>>>>> On 1/11/2010 3:41 AM, Arne wrote:
>>>>>> I would like to know what the difference is between "Sort by: Date"
>>>>>> and "Sort by: Received"?
>>>>> Do you mean "Sort by: Order Received"? That is the date/time the message
>>>>> showed up on your doorstep, regardless of the date shown in the Date
>>>>> header of the message. These can be different.
>>>> No, I don't mean "Sort by: Order Received". As I wrote, I can see what 
>>>> happen with that sort order. But I can't see what happen with the 
>>>> "plain" Received sorting that is different from sorting by Date.
>>> OK, here's a theory:
>>>
>>> If you look at a message header, you'll see that it contains Date: and 
>>> Received: fields. The Date: field is the date attached by the sending 
>>> computer, which may or may not be accurate. The Received: fields are 
>>> attached by the various servers that handle the message en route.
>>>
>>> So if you sort by Date:, you're sorting by when the sender's computer 
>>> thought it sent it, and if you sort by Received:, you're sorting by when 
>>> one of the mail servers thought it got it. Could be as much as several 
>>> days apart.
>>>
>> 
>> How do you sort by "Received". I don't have that option. In my SeaMonkey,
>> I have no such option. I do have Sort by "Order Received". Is that what
>> you're talking about. I've found that is set to the time the message is
>> placed in the mail folder.
>> 
>> For example, if I get three messages: A, B and C - in that order, then
>> move them into another mail folder in this order: First B, then A, then C,
>> and the other mail folder is set to display in the Order Received, the
>> messages are display in this order: B, A, C.
>> 
>> As far as I can see, it's not using the dates in the received headers at
>> all.
>> 
>> Perhaps this changed for SM 2.x. This is how it's always worked for me
>> in SeaMonkey 1.1.X (and I'm pretty sure earlier Mozilla products as
>> well).
> 
> Well, I'm in the same boat as you -- my SM 1.1.16 only offers "Order 
> received," and I have no idea how it would calculate that, since the 
> message header doesn't contain that info. Does SM somehow mark each 
> message with a date/time stamp of its own???

Based on my experience (described above) it keeps track of the date/time
the message was placed into the mail folder. This is the order the message
was received by the mail folder.

> 
> I can sort by the sender's date, of course, that's trivial.
> 
> My fallback theory is that some programmer devised a bad name for 
> something, and he probably means something else.
> 
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