David E. Ross wrote:
On 5/13/10 12:18 PM, Ray_Net wrote:
David E. Ross a écrit :
On 5/13/10 5:43 AM, Russ Hunt wrote:
On Apr 30, 7:24 pm, Ray_Net<tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be>
wrote:
Russ Hunt wrote:
Well.
I have "general.useragent.extra.firefox" set to "NOT Firefox/3.6". See
if that helps you.  -JW

Hm.  I haven't been able to find out where that is. How do I set
that?

in SM browser, type the url       about:config
then enter a New string: general.useragent.extra.firefox
then set this string equal to: NOT Firefox/3.6

Thanks; this solved the problem -- and another that developed later
with a site that didn't respond to SeaMonkey, and did to Firefox. But
I think it's worth noting that unless SeaMonkey can be configured so
as to avoid this without this pretty obscure individual fix, it's
going to go the way of Netscape and Mozilla, because people will
decide that they have to use IE or Firefox to avoid this sort of thing
occurring more frequently.

The problem is not in SeaMonkey.  The pronblem is that some Web servers
deliver different Web pages based on what browser you are using,
detecting your browser by what is called "sniffing".  Further, many
servers sniff incorrectly, looking for "Firefox" when they should look
for "Gecko".

What you have done is make those servers think you are using Firefox.
This is called "spoofing".  By spoofing, you are compounding the problem
by not telling other servers that SeaMonkey is not being used.  This
will eventually lead to other Web developers to think that there is no
need to provide for SeaMonkey when they sniff.  This puts all SeaMonkey
users at a disadvantage.

The proper way to address this problem requires three actions:

1.  Use an extension that allows you to spoof another browser when
necessary but also eliminates spoofing at other times.  Such extensions
include PrefBar and UserAgentSwitcher.  They automatically eliminate
spoofing whenever you launch SeaMonkey.

2.  Contact the owner of Web sites that work with Firefox but not with
SeaMonkey.  Inform them that they are blocking the use of Gecko-based
browsers that are not Firefox.  Refer them to
<http://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Sardisson/Gecko_is_Gecko>   and thus losing
potential audience.

Most of the time webmaster would not change what he have done ... one
reason is because IE is IE, FireFox is FireFox, and Seamonkey is *not*
Seamonkey , but Gecko ... nobody knowns that Gecko is a browser ... the
webmaster snif for a known list of browser ... Gecko ? what is that ? ...

I suggest you actually read
<http://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Sardisson/Gecko_is_Gecko>.  Firefox is
also Gecko.  The Firefox developers state that it is wrong to sniff for
"Firefox".  When sniffing can be justified, the server should sniff for
"Gecko" even for Firefox browsers.


I undersand that, but most of the webmasters snif for IE or FireFox or Opera, etc ... i never seen a webmaster sniffing for Gecko ... and in any tutorial .. Gecko sniffing is never present.

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