On 9/7/11 4:00 PM, Ray_Net wrote:
> Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
>> Wed, 07 Sep 2011 17:44:04 +0200, /Ray_Net/:
>>
>>> On a mail received from an outlook mail program i see:
>>> Re-Texte J instead of Re-Texte <smiling smiley>
>>>
>>> The "J" in Windings font is a smiling smiley
>>> But SM show me only a "J".
>>
>> The Wingdings font doesn't have an Unicode character map [1] and is
>> generally useless. MS allows one to write content like "J" but then when
>> used with Wingdings to render the glyph at "absolute" position
>> corresponding to "J" in the font. Mozilla and other browsers wouldn't
>> find appropriate glyph mapped to "J" in that font
> 
> When i use Word and i typed JJJ and i change the font of the second "J" 
> in Windings, i see a smiling face instead of the "J".
> 
> 
>   so the will find a
>> substitute font to render it. Outlook users should really write "☺"
>> (smiling face) and not "J".
> 
> How can i tell what he must do in outlook, because there is no ☺ on the 
> keyboard ?
> 
> Additionnal question, how can i type ☺ here ?(i had just copy/pasted of 
> your character)
> 
>>
>> A guy, David McRitchie, has some notes on it regarding Firefox but it
>> equally applies (or equally doesn't apply anymore) to SeaMonkey:
>>
>> http://dmcritchie.mvps.org/firefox/firefox.htm#wingdings
>> http://dmcritchie.mvps.org/firefox/wingdings.htm
>>
>> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cmap_%28font%29
>>
> Looks that those bugs are closed evenwhile not resolved ...
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90643
> says:
> This bug will cause my websites to have to suggest not using Firefox as 
> it is necessary to use Greek symbols and the symbol font. It works in 
> all other browsers making Firefox incompatible with all others.
> and:
> It is strange to ignore this bug.
> I very often get smileys from outlook users which display as "J".

Is the smiley face an HTML-recognized symbol?  Does it have a recognized
HTML name?

I cannot find smiley characters at
<http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/sgml/entities.html>.

At
<http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/named-character-references.html>,
there is a &smile; at Unicode U+02323.  (This is a draft specification
that is still being revised.  The latest revision was just today.)  At
<http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U2300.pdf>, I see that Unicode
U+02323 is a curve resembling a parenthesis on its side with the concave
side up.  This might be considered a smile, but it does not have the
face circle around it.

Note that the Gecko rendering engine (used by SeaMonkey, Firefox, and
related applications) is supposed to be compliant with published formal
specifications.  There is no error if a character that is not defined in
a formal specification is not appropriately displayed.  If the character
is indeed defined in a formal specification (not a draft specification)
but not appropriately displayed, please submit a bug report at
bugzilla.mozilla.org.

-- 

David E. Ross
<http://www.rossde.com/>

On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages
posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent
because of spam from that source.
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