Thu, 08 Sep 2011 01:00:09 +0200, /Ray_Net/:
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
Wed, 07 Sep 2011 17:44:04 +0200, /Ray_Net/:

On a mail received from an outlook mail program i see:
Re-Texte J instead of Re-Texte <smiling smiley>

The "J" in Windings font is a smiling smiley
But SM show me only a "J".

The Wingdings font doesn't have an Unicode character map [1] and is
generally useless. MS allows one to write content like "J" but then when
used with Wingdings to render the glyph at "absolute" position
corresponding to "J" in the font. Mozilla and other browsers wouldn't
find appropriate glyph mapped to "J" in that font

When i use Word and i typed JJJ and i change the font of the second
"J" in Windings, i see a smiling face instead of the "J".

The fact that you type J means the content contains exactly this character and not some other like "smiling face". A non-visual agent would read it as J and not as "smiling face". The fact that you see it as "smiling face" using Windings font in Outlook doesn't change the meaning of the character you encoded - J. It is presentational artifact specific to Outlook.

so the will find a
substitute font to render it. Outlook users should really write "☺"
(smiling face) and not "J".

How can i tell what he must do in outlook, because there is no ☺ on
the keyboard ?

Additionnal question, how can i type ☺ here ?(i had just copy/pasted
of your character)

On Windows one may use the Character Map (Programs / Accessories / System Tools), set "Character set: Unicode", "Group by: Unicode Subrange", then from the "Group By" palette select "Symbols & Dingbats" and search for a font which contains the smiley. On my system the "Courier New" font appears to contain it. Double click the character to add it to the "Character to copy" field, then copy and paste where needed.

An easier variant seems to be Alt+code <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt_code>:

| The following method can be used on Microsoft Windows to enter
| any Unicode codepoint as a hexadecimal number:
|
|   * Set the registry key HKCU\Control Panel\Input
| Method\EnableHexNumpad to type REG_SZ and value 1 and reboot.
|   * Keep the Alt key pressed. Press the "+" key on the numeric
| keypad.
|   * With the Alt key still pressed, type the hexadecimal number
| using the numeric keypad for digits 0-9 and the normal keys for
| a-f. For example, type +11b to produce ě (e with caron).

I guess one will need to press Alt+263A to insert the smiling face (but note the Registry setting first).

A guy, David McRitchie, has some notes on it regarding Firefox but it
equally applies (or equally doesn't apply anymore) to SeaMonkey:

http://dmcritchie.mvps.org/firefox/firefox.htm#wingdings
http://dmcritchie.mvps.org/firefox/wingdings.htm

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cmap_%28font%29

Looks that those bugs are closed evenwhile not resolved ...
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90643
says:
This bug will cause my websites to have to suggest not using Firefox
as it is necessary to use Greek symbols and the symbol font. It
works in all other browsers making Firefox incompatible with all
others.
and:
It is strange to ignore this bug.
I very often get smileys from outlook users which display as "J".

As explained elsewhere, this is normal way things are supposed to work. The other way is just a non-standard quirk.

--
Stanimir
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