hawker wrote: > On 8/2/2013 8:14 PM, MCBastos wrote: >> Interviewed by CNN on 02/08/2013 18:28, Paul B. Gallagher told the world: >>> hawker wrote: >>> >>>> No I have a problem that the way SeaMonkey takes clipboard data from >>>> an MS product does not work with all e-mail clients and that SeaMonkey >>>> WYSIWYG is not working correctly under the hood. I'm sure if I went >>>> from Word to Outlook directly it would work fine. It is SeaMonkey >>>> that seems to mangle it. This is a SeaMonkey issue not MS. My guess >>>> is it is a Clipboard parsing problem in SeaMonkey. >>> >>> Probably not. SeaMonkey is probably being too obedient and capturing all >>> the garbage codes Word supplies instead of stripping them out. For >>> example, I tried pasting one sentence from a Word 2010 document into an >>> HTML composition window in SeaMonkey, and I got this: >>> >>> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; >>> charset=ISO-8859-1"> >>> <p class="MsoBodyText">The body always operates as an integrated >>> mechanism, and “forms” >>> behavioral or motor acts in strict compliance with the conditions >>> in which it >>> is placed.<o:p></o:p></p> >>> followed by 423 more lines of code containing 20,044 characters >>> (including spaces). Yes, that's 20 thousand characters, not 20! >>> >>> The sentence itself was well-formed; the only change was that the curly >>> quotes were rendered as HTML character entities, which is not a problem. >>> >> >> >> I confirm this behavior. I started with a *blank* Word document. I typed >> *one* word in it, with default formatting. I copied that word and pasted >> it into a new Seamonkey HTML-formatted message. Then I saved the message >> and looked at the source code. >> >> Surprise, surprise: that one word turned into 20 kb of garbage. And it's >> easy to tell that the garbage originated in Word, because, well, things >> like <o:> elements (nonstandard), classes named "Mso"-something (created >> by Word) and conditional comments (another nonstandard, Microsoft-only >> technology) >> >> What I think is happening... >> >> 1. Word places a lot of proprietary garbage on the clipboard yet tags it >> as "HTML" >> 2. Thunderbird/Seamonkey believes the tag and accepts the paste "as is." >> 3. It probably tweaks the content a little in order to mesh with the >> rest of the HTML-formatted message. >> 4. Most non-MS mail clients ignore the proprietary garbage and render >> the message the same as the Seamonkey-user sender intended. >> 5. Outlook, however, attempts to interpret those remains of the >> proprietary garbage and fails horribly >> >> The only way I see for fixing it from the Mozilla end would be to add >> code for detecting MS proprietary garbage in the clipboard and run it >> through a sanitizer (something like HTMLtidy with the -word2000 option) >> to clean it up. >> > > Thank you for being the first person to fully explain what is going on > in a way I can understand. > I'm still not sure what my best solution is but now I better understand > the issue. > > What I often have to do for work is discuss something going on in an > e-mail, and there may be some text or data from a word document - say a > specification or chart that I want to past in. Often it has formatting, > bold, number list etc that I want to preserve so copying to text first > means I have to re-apply all the formatting. > > I wonder if there are any other formatted programs that can clean things > up as you suggest without loosing the formating.
I've been assuming that you need to preserve the editability of what you pull from Word. If not, why not just attach a screenshot? Or use screen capture software like Snagit: http://www.techsmith.com/snagit.html _______________________________________________ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
