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On 8/29/13 8:34 AM, Roger Fink wrote:

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I just upgraded from SM 2.15 to 2.20. Now, when I activate java (default
state being inactive) , the browser overrides my selection. What do I
need to do to gain control over my own computing decisions?
Fixed, but I'm not very happy with what SeaMonkey has done here, and if
there is a workaround (i.e. revert to the former behavior) I'd like to
hear about it..

About:plugins gives you two choices with the Java plugin, always enabled
or always disabled. This is different than in 2.15.

The default upgrade setting is always disabled, so that's what was
preventing Java from launching. When you change it to always enabled
your launch problems go away but now every time you open the browser
java is enabled by default, an accident waiting to happen. I can disable
it from the GUI using prefbar (which most people are not set up to do),
but I need to do that every time I reopen. It's not an intuitive use of
the browser to go into about plugins on a per application basis. The
biggest problem with all Mozilla products lately is their headlong
plunge into counterintuitiveness. SeaMonkey is the best of the bunch at
avoiding that, but they've done it here.
Actually prefbar let's me uncheck it but I don't think it's really doing
anything, which makes the situation much worse.

If you do not have it, you should update to PrefBar 6.2.2.  See
<http://prefbar.tuxfamily.org/help/use.html#preferences.plugintoggle.mode>.
  All this is because the internal guts of Firefox (used by SeaMonkey)
changed to "protect" users.

Java appears to work well now in SeaMonkey 2.20, meaning (for me) that it can be a user-controlled enable/disable, and prefbar can do the controlling. But it took both suggested changes to get it to behave that way: the "plugins.click_to_play", "true" change, and upgrading to the latest prefbar from 6.2.0. My next question was going to be 'what's the latest version of SeaMonkey I can revert back to', so thanks for taking that option off the table.

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