"WaltS" <thalion...@evomeraim.com> wrote in message news:laydnrd6pk4l8czpnz2dnuvz_qedn...@mozilla.org... > On 10/06/2013 09:20 AM, Desiree wrote: >> "WaltS" <thalion...@evomeraim.com> wrote in message >> news:vpgdnx0gbpxxi83pnz2dnuvz_qqdn...@mozilla.org... >>> On 10/03/2013 07:57 AM, Desiree wrote: >>>> On XP Pro, that stupid Flash plugin container tried to start as Sea >>>> Monkey >>>> 2.21 was starting! It should not start unless I decide to start Flash >>>> Player >>>> which is controlled by a toggle switch and can't start until I give >>>> permission. Plus, none of the tabs that were loading have any Flash >>>> Player >>>> video on them and the Proxomitron blocks all ads that might use Flash. >>>> So, >>>> I told Process Guard to deny Flash Plugin container from running. I've >>>> never >>>> had a problem doing that in the past but I guess 2.21 won't allow one >>>> to >>>> control Flash Player as when I did that Sea Monkey froze and then >>>> crashed. >>>> >>>> I tried starting it in Safe Mode and same thing, it is not allowed to >>>> load >>>> Flash Plugin container so it freezes and crashes. I thought Safe Mode >>>> disabled plugins? Evidently not...so what is the purpose of Safe Mode? >>>> >>>> I updated Flash Player recently and for some stupid reason that >>>> activates >>>> it >>>> on Fx and SeaMonkey disregarding my plugin settings where I had it >>>> disabled. >>>> If I disable it then SeaMonkey should not crash because Flash plugin >>>> container two processes won't try to load. So, if I can start >>>> SeaMonkey >>>> offline would that work so I could disable Flash plugin? >>>> >>>> (The real problem is that no browser should automatically grab a >>>> plugin. >>>> I >>>> remember when they did not and they still should not do that). >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> On openSUSE 12.3 Linux opening SeaMonkey to the default home page >>> <http://www.seamonkey-project.org/start/> does not start the plugin >>> container. >>> >>> Setting "plugins.click_to_play" to true and setting all plugins to "Ask >>> to >>> Activate", did not start the plugin container when I went to >>> <http://www.cbsnews.com/video/>. >>> >>> Clicking "Activate Adobe Flash" in the blank video window did start the >>> plugin container. >>> >>> You do still have control. >> >> That's nice to hear and it doesn't surprise me. The problem for me with >> using Linux is that I can't use the Proxomitron unless I try through >> WINE. >> It's my most important application and I won't give it up. >> >> > > > My procedure should work the same with Windows.
I paused my router (couldn't do that with the Linksy router I used for almost 9 years but this one I can) and started SeaMonkey offline so the plugin container didn't try to load. I was right that the recent Flash update had turned Flash back on to "automatic" in SeaMonkey plugins. Updating Flash should not change my settings for it in Tools/Addons Manager/Plugins. I set Flash back to "Ask" closed SeaMonkey, unpaused the router and restarted SeaMonkey. Plugin container did not try to load so SeaMonkey didn't crash. After the tabs loaded, I tested by going to your CBS link and just got a blank screen where the video should be. So, SeaMonkey is fine now and I will keep Flash disabled on it. However, this same problem will happen again with the next Flash update. I download Flash update to disk anyway but I will have to remember before installing a Flash update to pause the router, install offline, then start SeaMonkey offline and reset the plugin to "Ask" before reconnecting to the internet and starting SeaMonkey again. > > I don't know about a ten year old dead application Proxomitron. Wonder how > many security holes it has? Dead? I run JJoe's update of Sidki's filters. The update was offered to us on Dec 22, 20011 in Sidki's official forum at TUOPF. I 'm hoping we get another Christmas present this Christmas with an update as I have a very strange problem with Proxo on Windows 8 Pro having to do with it throttling download speed so I keep it off Opera and use Opera for large downloads. > > [quote] > Many current browsers do contain features similar to those provided by > Proxomitron filters blocking advertisements and pop-ups, for example. > Other browser features or add-ons, such as Greasemonkey for Firefox and > user stylesheets/scripts for Opera, also allow for local modification of > web pages. > [/quote]
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