On 4/22/2016 3:36 PM, Ray_Net wrote: > David E. Ross wrote on 22/04/2016 01:22: >> On 4/21/2016 2:06 PM, Ray_Net wrote: >>> David E. Ross wrote on 21/04/2016 16:34: >>>> On 4/20/2016 10:02 AM, Ed Mullen wrote: >>>>> On 4/20/2016 4:01 AM, Daniel's fingers rattled off: >>>>>> On 20/04/2016 1:23 AM, Ed Mullen wrote: >>>>>>> On 4/19/2016 4:27 AM, Daniel's fingers rattled off: >>>>>>>> On 19/04/2016 1:45 AM, Ed Mullen wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 4/18/2016 11:40 AM, Daniel's fingers rattled off: >>>>>>>>>> On 19/04/2016 1:06 AM, Ed Mullen wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 4/18/2016 7:37 AM, Daniel's fingers rattled off: >>>>>>>>>>>> Normally, when I file a Bookmark, I want to put it in a particular >>>>>>>>>>>> Group/Sub-Folder, but, with this Windows version of SM 2.40, I'm >>>>>>>>>>>> having >>>>>>>>>>>> troubles getting to particular Sub-Folders, e.g. somebody recently >>>>>>>>>>>> posted a link to http://info.cern.ch/ with a claim that it was the >>>>>>>>>>>> first >>>>>>>>>>>> *ever* website, so I thought I'd save the link in my "General" >>>>>>>>>>>> Sub-Folder of my Bookmarks. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Previously, a sub-screen would open showing my Bookmarks file >>>>>>>>>>>> structure >>>>>>>>>>>> and I would just select the Sub-Folder that I wanted the new >>>>>>>>>>>> Bookmark >>>>>>>>>>>> saved to, then click "O.K." and ... job done. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Now, I think, when I click on Bookmarks->File Bookmark, I am taken >>>>>>>>>>>> to a >>>>>>>>>>>> "New Bookmark" screen, which allows me to add bits and pieces about >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> new bookmark, but doesn't allow me to select the particular >>>>>>>>>>>> sub-folder >>>>>>>>>>>> that I want the Bookmark saved to .... unless it happens to be >>>>>>>>>>>> one of >>>>>>>>>>>> the half dozen or so listed on the "Folder:" drop-down of the >>>>>>>>>>>> sub-screen. Where this list comes from, I don't know ... unless it >>>>>>>>>>>> is a >>>>>>>>>>>> listing of the sub-folders to which I may have previously filed >>>>>>>>>>>> bookmarks directly to. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Have I started doing something wrong?? How do I get back to the old >>>>>>>>>>>> situation where I could file a bookmark to any of the forty or more >>>>>>>>>>>> sub-folders in my Bookmarks Folder?? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> (Lately, any bookmarks I save are just being added to the bottom of >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> Bookmarks drop-down! :-( ) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> In the New Bookmark dialog it has a line Folder: with a button >>>>>>>>>>> saying >>>>>>>>>>> Bookmarks Menu. Click the down arrow to the right. Click on >>>>>>>>>>> "Choose." >>>>>>>>>>> Choose your folder and click "Save." >>>>>>>>>> Thanks for that, Ed, but as I typed above, when I click "Choose", I >>>>>>>>>> only >>>>>>>>>> get offered those sub-folders that I have saved to recently (the half >>>>>>>>>> dozen or so listed).... not the full screen length list. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Odd. WFM. SM 2.40 release channel. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hmm!! Looking at our UserAgents >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You are Win 10 and include FF/43.0 and your addressbook works >>>>>>>> Mine Win7 no mention of FF and my addressbook fails >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Don't know if that might help any devs lurking. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Edit - Preferences - Advanced - HTTP Networking - check Advertise >>>>>>> Firefox compatibility. >>>>>>> >>>>>> Been there, done that ... and undone it .... several times, Ed! >>>>>> >>>>> Why undo it? You'll have less problems online if you advertise FF >>>>> compatibility. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> My default is to disable "Advertise Firefox compatibility". If I have a >>>> problem from that, my first recourse is to use PrefBar to set my user >>>> agent string to >>>> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101 >>>> SeaMonkey/2.40, NOT Firefox/45.0 >>>> If that does not work, I use PrefBar to revert to my real UA string and >>>> then have PrefBar check the "Advertise Firefox compatibility" checkbox. >>>> And if that does not work, I have PrefBar uncheck that checkbox and set >>>> my user agent string to >>>> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 >>>> Firefox/45.0 >>>> >>>> "Advertise Firefox compatibility" is not always effective. I have found >>>> Web sites that cannot handle the presence of "SeaMonkey" in the >>>> resulting UA string >>>> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101 >>>> Firefox/43.0 SeaMonkey/2.40 >>>> I do not know whether the servers are parsing the entire UA string or >>>> merely require "Firefox" to be at the end. I just know that the mere >>>> presence of "SeaMonkey" in the string causes problems at some Web sites. >>>> >>>> By the way, when I find an organization's site that is doing incorrect >>>> sniffing, I sometimes send a letter (US Postal System, not E-mail) to >>>> the CEO explaining why they have a broken Web server. >>>> >>> Do you think that the server is involved ? >>> My opinion is that the webmaster have badly analyzed the sniffing result. >>> Anyway all the problem came from the fact that most people did not know >>> that seamonkey is a browser otherwise >>> the UA string: "SeaMonkey/2.40" would be perfect. >>> >> The server is the software that receives your browser's request for a >> Web page and sends the result. Often, there is confusion when "server" >> is used to describe the hardware platform -- the "host" -- on which the >> actual server operates. >> >> The server may have a software component that sniffs the header fields >> sent by the browser, which includes the UA string. Based on how the >> server's sniffing routines were developed and configured, different >> files might be sent. This often happens when a Web developer decides to >> take advantage of the peculiarities -- idiosyncrasies -- of a particular >> browser that does not exist in other browsers. Sometimes, those >> peculiarities are actually errors in how the browser operates; when >> those errors are fixed, that particular browser might no longer render >> pages from that server as initially intended. >> >> It is obvious (at least to me) that much grief could be avoided if all >> Web pages complied with the W3C (World-Wide Web Consortium) >> specifications. Most sniffing would no longer be appropriate. For some >> Web sites (e.g., for financial transactions), however, sniffing would >> still be done because those sites have to be validated for specific >> browsers. >> >> Are you sorry you asked? >> > I don't understand "Are you sorry you asked? " ... Google translate in > my mother language(french) "Êtes-vous désolé vous avez demandé?" have no > sense. > I just said that the webmaster maintaining the web-site is the > responsible of the bad action based on his sniffing method and analyze. > And SM should subsequently claim to be: "SeaMonkey/2.40" instead of a > complicated UA string. >
You asked: "Do you think that the server is involved ?". I gave a lengthy explanation of the difference between a server (software) and a platform (hardware). Then I gave a lengthy description of sniffing for a user agent string. Because I might have given far too much information, I then ended facetiously. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/>. Sarah Palin claims Bill Nye (the "Science Guy") is no more a scientist than she is. Nye has a Bachelor of Science degree in mechanical engineering. Palin has degree in communications with an emphasis on journalism. Somehow, engineering seems to be more scientific than journalism. _______________________________________________ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
