On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Matthew Toseland
<t...@amphibian.dyndns.org> wrote:
> On Monday 14 September 2009 16:46:38 adam rush wrote:
>> hey,
>>         my name is adam and i believe in what you all are trying to
>> accomplish but there is some major things i ran into when i tried using ur
>> product. One thing i noticed was when i tried running it, it kept telling me
>> i needed java which i updated to the max. why it kept telling me i needed to
>> update it i have no idea. maybe you all can tell me why it still wouldnt
>> work even after i updated. my second concern is that its a little
>> complicated and throws alot at you when ur just a normal joe such as myself
>> when you first start up. when i started running the program it started
>> giving me all these messeges like im not running the right plug-ins right or
>> something along those lines. i didnt know what it was talking about or how
>> to fix um so me (bieng the average joe) would get frustrated and quit using
>> the program (like i did).
>>
>> heres my idea,
>>
>>             what if you guys didnt make it a web browser based program, like
>> frostwire, and gave it its own browser. a seprate browser only associated to
>> the program so it can be watched by the program. and the downloading client
>> would be much more like frostwire so were not trying to figure it out all
>> the time and we can enjoy your product better. so the program its self is
>> like frostwire but the browser is seprate when we wanna start surfing the
>> web. and the last thing is make all im gonna need to run the program be in
>> the file when im downloading it for the first time. so i have a once a time
>> setup then im done! quick and easy.
>>
>> tryin to help you out because i believe in what yall are doing,
>>
>> adam rush
>>
> The Java problem is well known, enormously serious, and has started to be 
> fixed by various vendors. On Windows, the latest version should not have this 
> problem; on Mac, OS/X 10.6 fixes the problem, 10.5 update 5 will fix it when 
> it eventually is released, on Linux it varies from distro to distro (I think 
> it was recently fixed for Ubuntu). We have disabled the plugins because of 
> this problem. That breaks a lot of things, making it harder to "figure it 
> out", but it should be fixed soon.
>
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Adam:  Can you tell us what OS and version you're running, what
version of Java (including what vendor) you think you have installed,
and what version of Java Freenet reports (copy paste the entire "JVM
Info" box from your stats page)?

About the browser comment: do you object to the browser interface to
the node?  Or is it simply that you dislike having the web interface,
and also separate programs like Frost?  Would you be happier with it
if there was one main interface, and that interface was an improved /
expanded version of the current web interface?  If so, do you have
specific changes you would like to see to that web interface?  Thanks
for the feedback!

Toad: Apple has released updates to 10.5.  My 10.5 laptop has
installed, through the normal software update process, 1.6.0_15 and
1.5.0_20.  (Freenet seems to default to using 1.5 instead of 1.6, but
that's a different problem...)

Evan Daniel
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