On Thursday 17 September 2009 07:41:28 Ancoron Luciferis wrote: > Evan Daniel wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Matthew Toseland > > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Monday 14 September 2009 16:46:38 adam rush wrote: > >>> hey, > >>> my name is adam and i believe in what you all are trying to > >>> accomplish but there is some major things i ran into when i tried using ur > >>> product. One thing i noticed was when i tried running it, it kept telling > >>> me > >>> i needed java which i updated to the max. why it kept telling me i needed > >>> to > >>> update it i have no idea. maybe you all can tell me why it still wouldnt > >>> work even after i updated. my second concern is that its a little > >>> complicated and throws alot at you when ur just a normal joe such as > >>> myself > >>> when you first start up. when i started running the program it started > >>> giving me all these messeges like im not running the right plug-ins right > >>> or > >>> something along those lines. i didnt know what it was talking about or how > >>> to fix um so me (bieng the average joe) would get frustrated and quit > >>> using > >>> the program (like i did). > >>> > >>> heres my idea, > >>> > >>> what if you guys didnt make it a web browser based program, > >>> like > >>> frostwire, and gave it its own browser. a seprate browser only associated > >>> to > >>> the program so it can be watched by the program. and the downloading > >>> client > >>> would be much more like frostwire so were not trying to figure it out all > >>> the time and we can enjoy your product better. so the program its self is > >>> like frostwire but the browser is seprate when we wanna start surfing the > >>> web. and the last thing is make all im gonna need to run the program be in > >>> the file when im downloading it for the first time. so i have a once a > >>> time > >>> setup then im done! quick and easy. > >>> > >>> tryin to help you out because i believe in what yall are doing, > >>> > >>> adam rush > >>> > >> The Java problem is well known, enormously serious, and has started to be > >> fixed by various vendors. On Windows, the latest version should not have > >> this problem; on Mac, OS/X 10.6 fixes the problem, 10.5 update 5 will fix > >> it when it eventually is released, on Linux it varies from distro to > >> distro (I think it was recently fixed for Ubuntu). We have disabled the > >> plugins because of this problem. That breaks a lot of things, making it > >> harder to "figure it out", but it should be fixed soon. > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Support mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support > >> Unsubscribe at > >> http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > >> Or mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe > >> > > > > Adam: Can you tell us what OS and version you're running, what > > version of Java (including what vendor) you think you have installed, > > and what version of Java Freenet reports (copy paste the entire "JVM > > Info" box from your stats page)? > > > > About the browser comment: do you object to the browser interface to > > the node? Or is it simply that you dislike having the web interface, > > and also separate programs like Frost? Would you be happier with it > > if there was one main interface, and that interface was an improved / > > expanded version of the current web interface? If so, do you have > > specific changes you would like to see to that web interface? Thanks > > for the feedback! > > > > Toad: Apple has released updates to 10.5. My 10.5 laptop has > > installed, through the normal software update process, 1.6.0_15 and > > 1.5.0_20. (Freenet seems to default to using 1.5 instead of 1.6, but > > that's a different problem...) > > > > Evan Daniel > > Hint: Java 1.5 is going EOL at October 30th! > > So Freenet should at least after that date default to Java 6. > Additionally has the OpenJDK being tested already?
OpenJDK runs on OS/X? 1.6 is installed by default on Windows, the 1.5 preference seems to be a mac wrapper bug. > > One of the problems Adam talks about is related to the way how the Sun > Java is installed by default on Windows I think. If you just click > through it will create a completely new Installation in a separate > Folder instead of "updating" the installed one. So if Freenet starts up > the first time before the "update" it will have the Folder of the old > version (and I bet that folder is just being used after a restart of > Freenet). So if there is a problem related to the Java version supposed > to be used it could make sense to present a dialog to the user > explaining the warning and giving him/her the opportunity to browse for > another Java installation. Not our problem, Sun's problem. However one thing it might be is that on 64-bit windows we install a 32-bit JVM. > > Most Linux distros (at least debian-based ones) don't have such problems > because they use symlinks to always point to the latest version of all > installed Java 6, 1.5, 1.4, ... like this: > > lrwxrwxrwx /usr/bin/java -> /etc/alternatives/java > > lrwxrwxrwx /etc/alternatives/java -> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java > > lrwxrwxrwx java-1.5.0-sun -> java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.19 > drwxr-xr-x java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.19 > lrwxrwxrwx java-6-sun -> java-6-sun-1.6.0.16 > drwxr-xr-x java-6-sun-1.6.0.15 > drwxr-xr-x java-6-sun-1.6.0.16 > > And ^^ here you see although I update every day my Ubuntu installation > has already abandoned Java 1.5. > > Regards, > > AncoL
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