On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 07:37:27PM +0200, Julien Cornuwel wrote:
> Matthew Toseland a ?crit :
> 
> >My understanding is that the french crypto regulations were abandoned
> >some time ago.
> 
> That law is just a project (no decree yet). For the moment, we're still
> limited to 128b.

That's bizarre. Nobody can actually break 128 bit AES at the moment, as
far as we know - why have an upper limit that can't be broken anyway?
> 
> >Make your own darknet. :)
> >Then come to Bristol, take me out for a pizza, and I'll connect to your
> >node ;). Seriously, there needs to be some sort of relationship for the
> >small world properties to hold, but beyond that it's not such a big
> >deal.
> 
> Some of us think about it but I see 2 problems to that :
> - We don't know each others and can't trust one not to be part of DST
> (our MI-5) or SNEP (our RIAA). So we can't reasonably reveal our real
> identities.

It depends on how paranoid you are. While it is possible that somebody
is a mole, infiltrating networks like that is ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE more
expensive than just harvesting the opennet. Infiltrating social networks
via actual social connections is seriously expensive.

> - If we do that, newcommers will be completely alone and we won't be
> able to guide them or invite them into the darknet.
> 
> OK for the pizza as long as it has cheese on it ;-)
> 
> >>I'm affraid that if this fonctionnality isn't enabled in Freenet, people
> >>will do it by other ways (internet forums, mailing-lists, weak encrypted
> >>emails, etc.) which are way less secure than Freenet. Or worse, some
> >>will decide to publish their keys and allow anyone to connect to the
> >>darknet through them...
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >In which case there will be weak segments of the darknet. That does not
> >undermine the whole structure. The mainstreamers can still use the
> >opennet. I expect there to be some cross-recruiting. But the intention
> >is for the darknet to be separate from the opennet. People who happen to
> >be on both can migrate content manually. They can also get to know
> >people on the opennet, and perhaps add them later. I first met Ian after
> >having worked for him for around a year; I have a friend in Australia who
> >I've never met but I would be perfectly happy to connect my node to. But
> >at this stage, I would happily connect to Newsbyte. Or CofE if I knew
> >him, but I obviously wouldn't want him to breach his carefully guarded
> >anonymity just for that. :)
> >
> 
> Mmm, well. Let's wait and see how that will work. Middle 2006, it'll be
> clearer...
> 
> Thanks for your answers.
-- 
Matthew J Toseland - toad at amphibian.dyndns.org
Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/
ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so.
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