Thank for all this guidance. 

If the min is (N+1)².  
Surely for 3rd order that is 
(3+1)² = 16 speakers?

This is what has been confusing me as I see reports of third order over 8 
speakers which seems to go against the rules. 

Cheers Garth
Sent on the Move

On 09/07/2012, at 22:07, Jörn Nettingsmeier<netti...@stackingdwarves.net> wrote:

> On 07/09/2012 01:32 PM, Augustine Leudar wrote:
>> that is for 3d by the way.... but not sure ... anyone ?
> 
> 
> there are no hard upper limits. the absolute lower limit is (N+1)².
> 
> in horizontal layouts, i find 8 too much for first order, and 12 too much for 
> third order. the issue is that additional speakers will create a more 
> prominent phasing pattern. which might not be an issue if the audience is 
> seated, but for walk-around environments, it's something to keep in mind.
> 
> another (useless) datapoint: two rings of 18 and five in the ceiling is too 
> much for third order periphonic :-D
> 
> 
> 
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