Sperical speakers have massive and obvious applications for holophopny - or
creating audio holograms. This may not be much use for many home listeners
- but has many , many uses for theatre, sound art etc

On 22 October 2012 23:46, etienne deleflie <edelef...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > I think this represent an inversion which can perhaps best be
> > characterised by the difference between pointing a speaker towards a
> > listener.... and pointing it away from the speaker.
>
> I meant to say ... (although my point is perhaps lost now) ...
>
> I think this represent an inversion which can perhaps best be
> characterised by the difference between pointing a speaker towards a
> listener.... and pointing it away from the *listener*.
>
> Etienne
>
> > By pointing the
> > speaker towards the listener, spatial reproduction is suggested ... by
> > pointing the speaker away from the listener the existing space is
> > suggested (and the speaker becomes equivalent to an instrument).
> >
> > Interesting to consider the two at once ... !
> >
> > Etienne
> >
> >> If one is simply wanting an omnidirectional speaker, then the type
> normally used for frequency sweeping for room response measurements is
> fine. Indeed, since speakers are increasingly omnidirectional with
> decreasing frequency, then, arguably, if one is not requiring the
> precision-for-room-measurement, you could just use a sub and a much smaller
> multiface speaker. If you don't need up-down as much as 360 horizontal, the
> problem is simpler still.
> >>
> >> But if you'd actually like control of directivity, then you're after
> something else - a kind of 'inside-out' surround rig. We cobbled something
> together in the '90s at York, simply using ambisonics wrongly - we put
> eight speakers in a tiny ring facing outwards (so, horizontal only).- we
> wanted an 'object projection' system that could display what I called
> (mostly to irritate audio engineers)  "facingness". It worked quite nicely,
> actually.
> >>
> >> Later, at Derby, we used the same thing but just with 4 speakers, in
> the centre of a 2nd order ring, so we could have inside and outside, as it
> were - and even use the outside to provide the reverb and the inside to
> provide the object - which could 'spin'. We even had partial success in
> making a phantom object travel between centre and periphery.
> >>
> >> We don't get much time for such idle playing now, but for performance
> use it was quite an interesting tool, giving a kind of spatial perception
> not normally engendered by sound field reproduction systems.
> >>
> >> If you've got space, time and amps, it's easy enough to play with
> >> cheers
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Dr. Peter Lennox
> >>
> >> School of Technology,
> >> Faculty of Arts, Design and Technology
> >> University of Derby, UK
> >> e: p.len...@derby.ac.uk
> >> t: 01332 593155
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu [mailto:
> sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On Behalf Of etienne deleflie
> >> Sent: 22 October 2012 01:34
> >> To: Surround Sound discussion group
> >> Subject: [Sursound] Uses for spherical speakers
> >>
> >>> Such a thing was offered for sale for consumers by DBX(as I recall) a
> >>> long time ago. I do not think it had much success--not surprisingly
> >>> since there is no real reason to want such a thing.
> >>
> >> I too was thinking that I couldn't see much use for a spherical
> speaker... other than in perhaps purely technical endeavours.
> >>
> >> But, as it happens, I've just been reading a book chapter (1965) by
> Henry Brant called "space as an essential aspect of music composition". For
> those who don't know ... Brant used spatial separation of performers in
> orchestral works. (similar line to Charles Ives ... John Cage used similar
> techniques too ... as did many others).
> >>
> >> On page 236 Brant considers the use of loud speakers for locations
> where performers cant be placed ... but he criticises the characteristics
> of loudspeakers as being so directional that they project very poorly
> within the performance space. So there's at least one use for spherical
> speakers!
> >>
> >> Of course this perspective on spatial music, in which existing spaces
> are used to affect sounds, is very different to the concerns of spatial
> music on this list ... which is more concerned with either the creation of
> virtual realities through spatial audio, or the re-projection of recorded
> sounds with spatial fidelity.
> >>
> >> Etienne
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