On 20 Nov 2014, at 10:01 AM, dw <d...@dwareing.plus.com> wrote:

> On 19/11/2014 22:49, Paul Doornbusch wrote:
>> Can you give us some links to this please?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Paul
> 
> I'll give you a couple. If you record a sound in front of a dummy head, you 
> would expect to hear it in front on replay through headphones.
> If you tilt your head backwards while listening, you would expect the 
> auditory image to rotate with the head/ears/torso. Neither happens in all 
> cases.. And then there is the 'externalization' problem.

Can you point me to a paper please?




>> 
>> On 20 Nov 2014, at 9:46 AM, dw <d...@dwareing.plus.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> There are numerous examples where the predictions of HRTF localisation are 
>>> falsified by observations. What is one to think of the science?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 19/11/2014 22:12, Stefan Schreiber wrote:
>>>> dw wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 19/11/2014 20:42, Stefan Schreiber wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Binaural recordings have weaknesses:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - They are definitively coloured by the chosen pinnae forms, head-shape 
>>>>>> (and maybe torso-shape). The "kunstkopf" approach means that you will 
>>>>>> have to chose some < general > HRTFs filters during recording...
>>>>> 
>>>>> That is just what the Herd Science says..
>>>>> 
>>>> You can do binaural recordings.
>>>> 
>>>> I doubt binaural recording techniques fit well to VR applications, mainly 
>>>> because of the HT/motion-tracking issues.
>>>> 
>>>> The citing above was written within this context, showing an existing 
>>>> further problems.
>>>> 
>>>>> Herd Science
>>>> There is either science or gossip. Please enlighten me and others about 
>>>> the true situation and science. (If - and this is a big if - you can do 
>>>> this.)
>>>> 
>>>> Your posting seems to be meaningless if not arrogant, BTW.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Stefan Schreiber
>>>> 
>>>> 
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