You should also look at the Behringer x32 - 32 channels, midas preamps,
motorised faders, proven reliability,  works as a usb multichannel
soundcard and door controller.  1000 pounds.

On Tuesday, 20 October 2015, Michael Chapman <s...@mchapman.com> wrote:

> Fons Adriaensen wrote (Thu, October 15, 2015 6:47 pm) :
> > On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 03:59:46PM +0200, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:
> >
> >> We've seen all those outlandish claims of magical waveguides that
> >> are just fractions of the wavelength in diameter and yet shape the
> >> sound so wonderfully that a 20Hz beam will travel all the way to the
> >> moon (using the revolutionary VacuProof™ technology that will
> >> finally bring cinema-friendly space battles). The problem is, this
> >> waveshaping is not physically possible.
> >
> > Yes, it's a simple as that - not physically possible.
> >
> > If you think in ambisonic (spherical harmonic) terms it's
> > easy to see why. Orders zero and one correspond to physical
> > quantities, pressure and velocity, so these can be generated
> > directly at any point. Higher order SH can't.
> >
> > Which means that you can have cardioid subs, or even
> > supercardioid ones, but anything expected to create more
> > directional beams will need to be of a size comparable
> > to wavelenght.
> >
> > Can be (and is) done for open-air PA systems using very big
> > arrays. But not in any normal room, there simply isn't the
> > space to do it.
> >
>
> There's something I've missed here ... for several years (as Feynman
> commented <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTRVlUT665U> there's a point
> when it's too late to ask idiot questions, but here goes;-)> :
>
> If X,Y,Z  correspond to velocity
> then does W correspond to some displacement of (a notional membrane say
> in) the aether in Jorn's vacuum of space;-)>
>
> If so ... by extension (always dangerous) ... then don't the next five
> (second order) components relate to acceleration ?
>
>
> To rephrase the question with no idiot presumptions:
> Why, in ambisonics, do we repeatedly refer to velcocity but never
> acceleration?
> (If one exists, then so must the other.)
>
>
> I feel an idiot even asking, so harsh replies accepted ;-)>
>
> Michael
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