Helo, I had to toss in my two bits,
Sited people have it made in the shade as far as using computers are
conserned, try learning how to make the computer talk and tell you what's on
the screen. Do this whith out knowing how it works.
I had a time learning about computers and O S es not being able to see the
screen.
Some thing else, pictures or grafics on the screen aren't words, so they
don't talk, except for the codes that make up the bit map or jpg or what
ever it is, toss that in whith not being able to see the screen and tell me
how many sited people would have put in the efort to learn about computers,
whearing a blind fold at all times ofcourse.
Pete
On 1999-05-28 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
>Hello Everyone,
>I couldn't help but respond to this thread...
>"Jerry J. Haumberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>}- A lot of children hate learning how to read, too, but how
>}- many parents give in to their children's whining by offering
>}- them crayons and paper instead?
>}- A little practical wisdom given early in the beginning of
>}- computer skill training -- pleasant or unpleasant -- will
>}- save untold time and discouragement later on.
>This is *SO* true. My son is a Novell CNE and he has several
>Micro$oft certifications as well. My youngest brother is M$
>certified in NT, TCP/IP, and several other things. The point
>is that both of them, over and over again, have told me that the
>thing that helps them the most in their work is their experience
>with DOS and the command line (and they learned this on their
>own for free). They also tell me that it is precisely this lack
>of DOS and command line experience that allows them to have such
>secure and lucrative jobs. My son has told me many times that
>if his boss knew how simple and easy some of it is his salary
>would drop 40%. So perhaps the first thing to understand is that
>if you aren't willing to learn it's going to cost you $$$.
>Jerry makes an excellent point here. *EVERYTHING* is difficult
>to learn, but that doesn't mean we don't have to learn it.
>And there simply is no substitute. No amount of paper and
>crayons is going to to you any good when you sit down to read
>a novel or newspaper or magazine. No amount of GUIs or Windows
>is going to help you with things that can only be done from the
>command line. Crayons, GUIs, and Windows are only temporary
>solutions, crutches - and they only serve to put off the
>inevitable if you ever want to do any real work with computers.
>"Yolanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>}- People for whom the DOS commands are a second language often
>}- forget how difficult it can be to learn and how much time
>}- can be occluded by that. When users are busy working and
>}- learning their job, they may well be unable to free the time
>}- and mental energy to learning a whole new "language."
>But it's not just a "second language," that is part of it, but
>it's so much more than that. IT'S A WAY OF THINKING. And there
>is simply no substitute for this. Ask a chemist or a machinist
>or a gituarist if there shortcuts or substitutes to learning the
>languages of those things, or if there is a substitute for
>learning to think in the ways required to do those things. If
>they are worth their salt they will tell you no.
>That Windows is easier and faster to learn is a myth, pure and
>simple. It only took me 2 weeks to learn the basics of DOS.
>And I have taught DOS to several others in just 2 or 3 weeks.
>The secret here is motivation - I was highly motivated to learn
>and so were the people I have taught. I had a job, other things
>to do, and so did those I taught. Yet we managed to learn in
>just a couple weeks.
>My father is a perfect example here. When he retired a couple
>years ago he wanted a computer and internet access. And he
>wanted Windows95 - mind you now, this man had never seen a
>computer in action before, except maybe on television. So I
>put a machine together for him and installed Windows95 on it.
>Now remember, this is Windows95; just point and click, a child
>can do it, right? People with no previous computer experience
>can do it, no experience needed, right? Wrong! My father never
>did learn. He's now using WebTV and the computer I built for him
>is sitting in his closet. He wasn't motivated. He wanted all of
>the benefits without doing any of the work. His mind wasn't
>open and pliable enough to learn a new language and way of
>thinking. So now he can do email and cruise the web. But he
>can't keep a budget in a spread sheet, he can't design and
>print a newsletter, he can't capture and send a photograph to
>his grandson in Louisiana, there's a lot of things he can't do.
>But that's not the technology's fault - that's his fault.
>So if people don't want to learn DOS and the command line,
>that's fine. But they must understand that this limits them, and
>they are responsible for limiting themselves. They have no
>room to complain, no right to carp. But then again:
>"Argue for your limitations and you get to keep them."
>Boanne
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