Hi all:-)

I just saw this post in another list that I subscribe to.  This other
list is mainly concerned with different industry standards and lately I
have seen a lot of linux related posts on it.  Not sure due to bandwidth
if I did the right thing in forwarding this message to this list.  But,
it does say quite a bit about the capabilities of Linux in general
so......:=)

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cya l8r
Leon McClatchey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Linux User 78912 (Win95 Box)



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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 23:10:24 -0600
From: Curt Wuollet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "The Automation mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SOFT, PC: Linux in industry??

Hi, all;

Actually, if people were to want one OS across the board, Linux would
have a better chance than anything else. It offers much better
stabiliity than anything MS, realtime facilities (several flavors), it
can mount and write to MS filesystems, UNIX filesystems, Novell,
Apple, and offers excellent programming facilities.  Ethernet, serial,
ATM, ISDN, 3780, SCSI,...... and the list goes on.   In short whatever
you have now on the corporate side,  Linux can talk to it.  I use it
regularly as the display device for Cimplicity.  Implimenting the many
diverse and bizzarre proprietary fieldbus protocols would be much
easier with example drivers and source code available than under
closed proprietary systems like NT. For example, I can write directly
to a Cimplicity database. ( Of course, I haven't done that :^) )
I think it would make an excellent "all in one" realtime with HMI
system, kinda like what they are doing with NT, minus the big bucks
and the crashes. It would also excel as a cell controller, providing
I/O, logic, and coordination for several machines. NIST has even got a
project using Linux for robot and NMC functions.  I haven't heard
anything negative about the tasks that Linux has been put to, just a
lot of FUD about support. If you're technical enough to work with this
stuff and you have the source, you don't need support. Anything that
comes up is less hassle to fix yourself than it is to find someone who
knows what you are talking about in typical phone support situations.
(there are exceptions) I see it as a solution to many problems, not
the least of which is the proprietary "tower of babel". If all the
standards are available at no extra cost, people would be encouraged
to standardize.  If people could just control their knee jerk reactions,
based on what UNIX was ten years ago with it's many flavors and high
costs, and try to see the possibilities, the inevitable would happen
sooner.  Look at it this way,  with 34 million less lines of code,
it's just a better idea for critical systems


space for flames


Curt Wuollet
Linux Systems Engineer
Heartland Engineering Co


Sam Moore Square D Company/Groupe Shneider wrote:

> I think it comes down to support cost. Each type of technology that is
> installed requires training and often replacement parts. No one wants to
> add another type of technology to the mix unless they absolutely have to.
> This goes for anything, but especially computing technology which is
> quickly converging on off-the-shelf components.
>
> If a shop can standardize on Linux and develop a migration plan that will
> eliminate other operating systems then they will be much more willing to
> take it on. In the short-term, this should be appealing to shops that are
> running a number of different UNIX flavors.
>
> But why not go for it all? Certainly, no one expects a facility to go to
> Linux for everything. That just won't happen. Given that, why not try to
> have one operating system to support rather than two: NT and Linux.
>
> Even if companies do provide support for Linux seldom do you see them drop
> NT support.  It is one thing for Opto22 to support a Linux device driver.
> It is another thing for them to switch their emphasis from NT to Linux.
>
> Ultimately, the data needs to get to the corporate desktop which is
> Windows-based.  Look at documentation from companies like Opto22 and you
> will see them promoting their ability to easily share information with
> Windows desktop applications. If Opto22's products work on NT, an operating
> system I already have to support, then why do I want to train/hire people
> to support Linux?

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