Hi!

> > Still, what we definitely want is _one single_ architecture independent
> > whitelist. And there is where hal-info comes in which is easy to update
> > for distributions etc. IMHO. I'm seeing this difficulty with the two
> > different lists for quite some time know and thought about possible
> > solutions. AFAICS, the main reason for heaving s2ram internal whitelist is
> > that s2ram can be used completely without any trace of hal on some
> > system. 
> 
> Today I'd say that 99% of all machines that need suspend quirks use HAL
> anyway... just based on what software people use.. (embedded stuff
> is

And what?

Unfortunately for hal, the 1% of remaining machines is what matters,
like my development machine.

> Anyway, I know it's fine and all to not require HAL.. I mean, some
> people do go out of their way to avoid having glib or Qt installed and
> they're happy with twm instead of KDE/NOME/XFCE and so on... but in this
> case it's just damn impractical since it means a ton of duplication
> currently is going on... but as the maintainer of HAL I'm obviously
> rather biased, hehe :-). I guess I'm just frustrated about the whole
> thing. Anyway, sorry for ranting.

It is just wrong layering. For debugging, it is important that s2ram
works from init=/bin/bash... and AFAICT you can't do that with hal.

                                                                Pavel
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