On Sat, Jul 21, 2007 at 11:08:30PM +0300, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
> On 7/21/07, Alon Bar-Lev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 7/21/07, Holger Macht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Right. So if we start putting things like cpufreq in the suspend package,
> > > we would have an argumentation to put everything which is in pm-utils, the
> > > hibernate script etc. to it. And I don't think this is what we want.
> >
> > You can put vbetool, radeontool, whitelist etc in pm-utils too...
> > reducing the suspend/resume dependencies...
> > hibernate-script already doing this.
> 
> Don't get me wrong...
> I would not be offended if this not accepted... :)
> It is just that I think the other hacks should also be removed... as
> for my understanding they are running as regular process... So that
> the question of early/late is irrelevant,

No, it's not. Not if it should work reliably.
I actually worked on having the hacks all run while the other processes
were frozen, just to make sure that no user accidentally pushes "ALT-F7"
at the wrong time. But now that they want to kill the freezer anyway, this
has rather low priority.

> the same functionality can
> be handled by hibernate-script or this pm-utils.

Yes, it can, as e.g. ubuntu shows, but i think it is less reliable.
And a second thing - having this integrated in s2ram makes testing and
reporting easier for people. I am getting very many highly qualified
reports from people that just have read http://en.opensuse.org/S2ram
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