Hi Bryan, --- Bryan Fullerton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I disagree... unless you are getting exotic with > your electric motors. i.e. > thin and nearly as big as the wheel. While these > kinds of motors are cool I > haven't been able to find them since I saw them on > the net about 3 years > ago.. There are ways to do the conversion with > standard motors made for > Electric cars. I have thought of at least 3 > different ways to do it and my > problem has been deciding which way to go. If you've > a source for those > fancy motors.. mind indulging me? thanks All wheel motors I know of are custom made. This drives the price thru the roof. Personally I don't see why people need a 4000+ lb vehicle to move 1 or 2 people around. What we need are smaller biodiesel and electric vehicles not larger. If I was building a kick ass 4x4 I'd leave the diesel in place and run it on biodiesel to the rear wheels and a 9" ADC motor , DCP 1200 controller and 192 volt pack of Optima yellow top batts to the front axle. Less work, but still costs 10k to 15k. A 4 wheel motor system is this 1 motor system times 4. Gets to 50 k quickly. I'm currently building a 3 wheeled Ev car and planning to produce a composite enclosed 2 seat sport wagon with 2 wheels in front. I'm painfully aware of what things cost. Try bringing in a low production car to market you find out about prices fast. I'm good at keeping cost down so if you send me off list your vehicle model, preferably a light one, it's mission ie off road, commute, ect? and other details I could point you in the right place. jerry dycus > --Bryan > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jerry dycus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <biofuel@egroups.com> > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 3:36 PM > Subject: Re: [biofuel] half brained idea > > > > Hi Bryan and All, > > --- Bryan Fullerton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > $50,000? where do you come up with that figure? > > > Please don't quote the > > > military pricing.. Allt he parts necessary to do > > > that kind of conversion > > > should be available on the net.. > > > > > > > > > --Bryan > > 4 Wheel motors are not cheap. The low speed/ hi > > torque requirement is hard to do. Neither are 4 > > controllers to run them and the unit to make them > run > > together. Then you have a big alt and the curcuits > to > > control them. A very large battery pack of AGM or > > ni-cad batteries. The 4 x4 , someone to put it > > together, ect. > > If you want a good 4x4 , 1 motor, 1 > controller , > > flooded batteries you can get by for 3k to 10k if > you > > do it yourself. This will not be a kick ass 4 x 4 > as > > was requested. > > The military paid a lot more than $50,000 for > the > > first humvee that way, probably over 1 million. > > Production ones about $150,000 each. > > Later, jerry dycus > > > > > Hi , > > > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > had a interesting thought to promote > biodiesel. > > > take > > > > > a 4 wheel drive > > > > > diesel pickup. remove tranny and replace > with > > > high > > > > > wattage alternator > > > > > (perm mag generator?). mount electric motors > on > > > all > > > > > wheels. fill bed > > > > > of pickup with batteries, fill her up with > > > biodiesel > > > > > and go drag > > > > > racing. a biofuelie lead sled! > > > > > > > > > It's been done by the army. They took a > > > Humvee > > > > and did exactly that. > > > > Most new military vehicles in the future > will > > > be > > > > this way. They see them as mobile gens too. > > > > Cost $50,000 to do it though to a 4 x 4. > > > > jerry dycus > > > > > > >
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