Ed,
No you need very little pressure. They work well from 20 to 70 psi
max. Better at the lower pressures though. Too much pressure and the Toilet
Roll will impact. About 25 to 30 psi should be ideal. Flow rate and velocity
is governed by an orifice which varies from 1/16" to 5o thousandths
depending on origin. Believe Frantz has a 1/16" one so flow rate will be a
little higher. Best sort of pump is a magnetic drive as you can govern the
flowrate with a ball valve on the outlet and you wont burn it out. Gross
overkill though and cost not warranted. Try and get a small cheap pump that
will do the job if you need to buy one. Some of the aquarium shop pumps
probably represent good value but make sure the plastic will handle the
temperature. The advantage of a good mag drive is the pump unit itself can
be stripped for cleaning in about 5 minutes by just removing 4 srews. The
good ones have ss pump units and the plastic ones that can handle temp
without any problem are generally made of Norel plastic. As I said not cheap
though so unless you are using it regularly or have other uses for it
probably not worth buying. If you need to buy one try someone like
Grainger.com or I could probably dig you out an address in your part of the
world if you need one.
B.r., David
-----Original Message-----
From: NBT - E. Beggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com <biofuel@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Frantz..found it
>I planned to fine filter the biodiesel with it, after the 10 micron
"coarse"
>filter...this is all before it goes into the jug or tank...we like our fuel
>to be clean! How much pressure will it take to force through and what kind
>of pump would you suggest, for example to run 30 deg. C biodiesel through
>the TP do you think it'll take a lot of pressure?
>
>(My guess is biodiesel being thin at that temp. if it was designed for 30
>weight @ 40 PSI, it should not take TOO much pressure (?).
>
>Thanks
>
>Ed B.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "DAVID REID" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com>
>Cc: "DAVID REID" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 11:32 AM
>Subject: Re: [biofuel] Frantz..found it
>
>
>> Ed,
>> Ask George Walker what the proper filter material is. Its probably
>> T.P. as you suggest but find out from him as I am sure he is
>knowledgeable.
>> The units work better with the appropriate roll. While most will fit you
>> need one that is reasonably tightly wound and has the appropriate no of
>> leaves. eg. Our T.P. here is a standard 1 1/2" core 4" wide, 2 ply
>material
>> but would not be suitable as its only 200 leaves, is loosely wound, and
>> would let far too much contaminants through. (channeling as a result). I
>> have to import the appropriate 400 leaves ones from Australia for the
>units
>> I sell. (Probably because those Aussies are full of more sh-- than us
>kiwis.
>> joke)
>> (So impressed I bought the company). No seriously have been looking after
>my
>> folks for the last 12 years and recently had to put my mother into 24
hour
>> nursing care as I could no longer cope; needed to go back to earning a
>> proper living to pay the bills , was looking around for something where
I
>> could contribute to society when I came across these which I knew very
>> little about. After investigating them fully and trying one in my own car
>> was so impressed I have taken on the distributorship for NZ. As well as
>> filtering and cleaning your oil they are probably the best filters I have
>> come across for filtering both biodiesel and fossil diesel.
>> If yours is an aircraft one it is probably made from stainless steel I
>> expect. Dont expect if you get the right core that you will have any
>> problems. Was totally impressed when I first fitted mine to find how
>quickly
>> it cleaned the oil, cleaned the motor, and just ran that much better.
>Could
>> not see why these things were not widespread and why hardly anyone knew
>> about them until I realized the oil companies who want to sell more oil,
>the
>> engine and vehicle manufacturers who want to sell more engines, vehicles,
>> and spare parts, and everyone else with vested interests certainly dont
go
>> out of their way to inform the public and even to some degree have run
>> propoganda campaigns in the past to convince the informed public they
dont
>> work.
>> See your a Canadian rather than an American. Again best of luck with
your
>> efforts.
>> B.r., David
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NBT - E. Beggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com <biofuel@yahoogroups.com>
>> Date: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 9:56 AM
>> Subject: Re: [biofuel] Frantz..found it
>>
>>
>> >David -
>> >
>> >Never mind, found them...
>> >
>> >http://www.wefilterit.com/frantz.htm
>> >
>> >
>> >....looks like mine is the old aircraft one, and looks like it'll accept
>> the
>> >inexpensive 'TP' Filter Cartridge just fine. (2-ply, of course!)
>> >
>> >Ed B.
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: "DAVID REID" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com>
>> >Cc: "DAVID REID" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 7:31 AM
>> >Subject: Re: [biofuel] First Batch
>> >
>> >
>> >> Ed,
>> >> Very good engines but still a bit on the hungry side. Still must
>> >admit
>> >> that when it comes to trucks you americans had it right in a time of
>> >plenty
>> >> as regards fuel with your philosphy that "cubes is power" as there is
>no
>> >> such thing as free or even cheap motoring and this is the only way an
>> >engine
>> >> will last when it is not overworked or overstressed. Will be
>interesting
>> >to
>> >> see what happens over the next fifty years or so though. I get the
>> feeling
>> >> that future generations will look back in absolute horror at the
>absolute
>> >> waste, greed and selfishness of the present and immediate past
>> >generations.
>> >> Undoubtedly you americans unfortunately will be up there at the top of
>> the
>> >> list. As they say ignorance is bliss. Thank goodness as the known
>> reserves
>> >> of oil have more or less peaked an awareness is occuring.
>> >> Suggest if you want to remove metal particles and other contaminants
>from
>> >> used engine oil that you set up a filtering system using a Frantz type
>> >> by-pass oil filter to remove and filter them out and to circulate your
>> oil
>> >a
>> >> few times. This type of filter can and will remove particles down to 1
>> >> micron (absolute not nominal) and submicron levels (down as low as
>> >> 0.1micron). Something no spin-on Factory Full Flow Filter can do. Best
>> >these
>> >> will get down to is normally 10 micron (nominal not absolute). Very
few
>> of
>> >> these even get below 20-25 micron with a majority remaining in the 30
>> >micron
>> >> plus level. In my opinion a by-pass filter should be mandatory by law
>for
>> >> every vehicle on the road. Believe the oil companies and vehicle
>> >> manufacturers have a lot to answer for.
>> >> Also believe Steve does not have it quite right when he says at the
>> bottom
>> >> of his pages that: "We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we
>> >> borrow it from our children". Tricky lanquage this english language.
>> >Believe
>> >> he has the tense wrong and it should read: "We did not inherit the
>earth
>> >> from our ancestors, we stole it from our children". Still I have
>nothing
>> >> against optimists as I like to see myself as one, but believe self
>> >> improvement is only possible when we face the truth, admit it to
>> >ourselves,
>> >> and then go on to make the necessary adjustments for improvements to
>> >occur.
>> >> Honesty is only possible when we start with ourselves first.
>> >> Best of luck with your efforts.
>> >> B.r., David
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: steve spence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com <biofuel@yahoogroups.com>
>> >> Date: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 5:43 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: [biofuel] First Batch
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >cogen units in the shed ;-)
>> >> >
>> >> >Steve Spence
>> >> >Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter:
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>> >> >
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>> >> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >> >We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors,
>> >> >we borrow it from our children.
>> >> >--
>> >> >
>> >> >----- Original Message -----
>> >> >From: "Ed Beggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> >To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com>
>> >> >Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 11:36 AM
>> >> >Subject: Re: [biofuel] First Batch
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> VW engines with shavings in them would be mostly from the abuse
and
>> >> >neglect
>> >> >> heaped upon them by their owners who don't know where the hood
latch
>> >and
>> >> >> drain plug is (and block heater, and air filter, and water
>separator,
>> >> >> and...) ...wait a minute, that's more true of Volvo owners...well,
>at
>> >> >least
>> >> >> that solves the mystery of why the VW diesel never lasted very long
>in
>> >a
>> >> >> Volvo!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The VW wears at 10 times the rate of the Cummins, so if a VW engine
>> >lasts
>> >> >> 500,000 kms, Ed's probably going to be driving that Dodge a long
>time
>> >> even
>> >> >> with a few microscopic bits of stuff in a small amount of oil (as a
>> >> >> percentage) of fuel.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> BTW, what are we going to do with all those 100-year Cummins
>engines
>> >> >after
>> >> >> the rest of the 10-year Dodge wears out?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ;-)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Ed
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > From: "steve spence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> >> > Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
>> >> >> > Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:14:01 -0500
>> >> >> > To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com>
>> >> >> > Subject: Re: [biofuel] First Batch
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > VW engines ;-)
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Steve Spence
>> >> >> > Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter:
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>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com
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>> >> >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> >> > (212) 894-3704 x3154 - voicemail/fax
>> >> >> > We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors,
>> >> >> > we borrow it from our children.
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> > From: "Ed Service" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> >> > To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com>
>> >> >> > Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 10:57 AM
>> >> >> > Subject: Re: [biofuel] First Batch
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> Of course I had to filter the used oil extremely well and also
>let
>> >it
>> >> >> > settle
>> >> >> >> for considerable time! What kind of engine would have metal
>> shavings
>> >> in
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> oil? Remind me so I'll never get one of them! Definitely there
is
>> >iron
>> >> >in
>> >> >> > it
>> >> >> >> from normal wear and silicon from the dirt that sneaks in< these
>> >have
>> >> >to
>> >> >> > be
>> >> >> >> removed! But it does add lubricidy to the oil!
>> >> >> >> Ed Service
>> >> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> >> From: "steve spence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> >> >> To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com>
>> >> >> >> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 6:52 AM
>> >> >> >> Subject: Re: [biofuel] First Batch
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> depends on his filtration system, but I wouldn't do it
>personally.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Steve Spence
>> >> >> >>> Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter:
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>> >> >> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >> >> >>> We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors,
>> >> >> >>> we borrow it from our children.
>> >> >> >>> --
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> >>> From: "Troy Heagy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> >> >>> To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com>
>> >> >> >>> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 8:03 AM
>> >> >> >>> Subject: Re: [biofuel] First Batch
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>>> From: "Ed Service" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> >> >>>>> Is it true that synthetic oils like Mobil 1 and Amsoil are
>> >actually
>> >> >> >>>>> Biodiesel based? On my old truck ,a 93 dodge Cummins, I used
>> >Mobil
>> >> >> >> Delvac
>> >> >> >>>>> oil in the crankcase changing it at 20000 km's Then, mixed
the
>> >old
>> >> >> > oil
>> >> >> >>> I'd
>> >> >> >>>>> removed from the engine into the fuel
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> Isn't that a bad idea? I thought old oil was filled with
>> >particles
>> >> >> >>>> (including metal shavings)?
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> Troy
>> >> >> >>>>
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