I see mag. drive pumps for the backyard fountains and ponds...maybe they are the middle ground between aquarium and heavy duty ($) types?
http://www.calpump.com/PerformanceChart.htm Ed > From: "DAVID REID" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 12:47:26 +1300 > To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> > Cc: "DAVID REID" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [biofuel] Frantz..found it > > Ed, > No you need very little pressure. They work well from 20 to 70 psi > max. Better at the lower pressures though. Too much pressure and the Toilet > Roll will impact. About 25 to 30 psi should be ideal. Flow rate and velocity > is governed by an orifice which varies from 1/16" to 5o thousandths > depending on origin. Believe Frantz has a 1/16" one so flow rate will be a > little higher. Best sort of pump is a magnetic drive as you can govern the > flowrate with a ball valve on the outlet and you wont burn it out. Gross > overkill though and cost not warranted. Try and get a small cheap pump that > will do the job if you need to buy one. Some of the aquarium shop pumps > probably represent good value but make sure the plastic will handle the > temperature. The advantage of a good mag drive is the pump unit itself can > be stripped for cleaning in about 5 minutes by just removing 4 srews. The > good ones have ss pump units and the plastic ones that can handle temp > without any problem are generally made of Norel plastic. As I said not cheap > though so unless you are using it regularly or have other uses for it > probably not worth buying. If you need to buy one try someone like > Grainger.com or I could probably dig you out an address in your part of the > world if you need one. > B.r., David > > -----Original Message----- > From: NBT - E. Beggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> > Date: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 1:43 PM > Subject: Re: [biofuel] Frantz..found it > > >> I planned to fine filter the biodiesel with it, after the 10 micron > "coarse" >> filter...this is all before it goes into the jug or tank...we like our fuel >> to be clean! How much pressure will it take to force through and what kind >> of pump would you suggest, for example to run 30 deg. C biodiesel through >> the TP do you think it'll take a lot of pressure? >> >> (My guess is biodiesel being thin at that temp. if it was designed for 30 >> weight @ 40 PSI, it should not take TOO much pressure (?). >> >> Thanks >> >> Ed B. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "DAVID REID" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> >> Cc: "DAVID REID" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 11:32 AM >> Subject: Re: [biofuel] Frantz..found it >> >> >>> Ed, >>> Ask George Walker what the proper filter material is. Its probably >>> T.P. as you suggest but find out from him as I am sure he is >> knowledgeable. >>> The units work better with the appropriate roll. While most will fit you >>> need one that is reasonably tightly wound and has the appropriate no of >>> leaves. eg. Our T.P. here is a standard 1 1/2" core 4" wide, 2 ply >> material >>> but would not be suitable as its only 200 leaves, is loosely wound, and >>> would let far too much contaminants through. (channeling as a result). I >>> have to import the appropriate 400 leaves ones from Australia for the >> units >>> I sell. (Probably because those Aussies are full of more sh-- than us >> kiwis. >>> joke) >>> (So impressed I bought the company). No seriously have been looking after >> my >>> folks for the last 12 years and recently had to put my mother into 24 > hour >>> nursing care as I could no longer cope; needed to go back to earning a >>> proper living to pay the bills , was looking around for something where > I >>> could contribute to society when I came across these which I knew very >>> little about. After investigating them fully and trying one in my own car >>> was so impressed I have taken on the distributorship for NZ. As well as >>> filtering and cleaning your oil they are probably the best filters I have >>> come across for filtering both biodiesel and fossil diesel. >>> If yours is an aircraft one it is probably made from stainless steel I >>> expect. Dont expect if you get the right core that you will have any >>> problems. Was totally impressed when I first fitted mine to find how >> quickly >>> it cleaned the oil, cleaned the motor, and just ran that much better. >> Could >>> not see why these things were not widespread and why hardly anyone knew >>> about them until I realized the oil companies who want to sell more oil, >> the >>> engine and vehicle manufacturers who want to sell more engines, vehicles, >>> and spare parts, and everyone else with vested interests certainly dont > go >>> out of their way to inform the public and even to some degree have run >>> propoganda campaigns in the past to convince the informed public they > dont >>> work. >>> See your a Canadian rather than an American. Again best of luck with > your >>> efforts. >>> B.r., David >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: NBT - E. Beggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> >>> Date: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 9:56 AM >>> Subject: Re: [biofuel] Frantz..found it >>> >>> >>>> David - >>>> >>>> Never mind, found them... >>>> >>>> http://www.wefilterit.com/frantz.htm >>>> >>>> >>>> ....looks like mine is the old aircraft one, and looks like it'll accept >>> the >>>> inexpensive 'TP' Filter Cartridge just fine. (2-ply, of course!) >>>> >>>> Ed B. >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "DAVID REID" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> >>>> Cc: "DAVID REID" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 7:31 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [biofuel] First Batch >>>> >>>> >>>>> Ed, >>>>> Very good engines but still a bit on the hungry side. Still must >>>> admit >>>>> that when it comes to trucks you americans had it right in a time of >>>> plenty >>>>> as regards fuel with your philosphy that "cubes is power" as there is >> no >>>>> such thing as free or even cheap motoring and this is the only way an >>>> engine >>>>> will last when it is not overworked or overstressed. Will be >> interesting >>>> to >>>>> see what happens over the next fifty years or so though. I get the >>> feeling >>>>> that future generations will look back in absolute horror at the >> absolute >>>>> waste, greed and selfishness of the present and immediate past >>>> generations. >>>>> Undoubtedly you americans unfortunately will be up there at the top of >>> the >>>>> list. As they say ignorance is bliss. Thank goodness as the known >>> reserves >>>>> of oil have more or less peaked an awareness is occuring. >>>>> Suggest if you want to remove metal particles and other contaminants >> from >>>>> used engine oil that you set up a filtering system using a Frantz type >>>>> by-pass oil filter to remove and filter them out and to circulate your >>> oil >>>> a >>>>> few times. This type of filter can and will remove particles down to 1 >>>>> micron (absolute not nominal) and submicron levels (down as low as >>>>> 0.1micron). Something no spin-on Factory Full Flow Filter can do. Best >>>> these >>>>> will get down to is normally 10 micron (nominal not absolute). Very > few >>> of >>>>> these even get below 20-25 micron with a majority remaining in the 30 >>>> micron >>>>> plus level. In my opinion a by-pass filter should be mandatory by law >> for >>>>> every vehicle on the road. Believe the oil companies and vehicle >>>>> manufacturers have a lot to answer for. >>>>> Also believe Steve does not have it quite right when he says at the >>> bottom >>>>> of his pages that: "We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we >>>>> borrow it from our children". Tricky lanquage this english language. >>>> Believe >>>>> he has the tense wrong and it should read: "We did not inherit the >> earth >>>>> from our ancestors, we stole it from our children". Still I have >> nothing >>>>> against optimists as I like to see myself as one, but believe self >>>>> improvement is only possible when we face the truth, admit it to >>>> ourselves, >>>>> and then go on to make the necessary adjustments for improvements to >>>> occur. >>>>> Honesty is only possible when we start with ourselves first. >>>>> Best of luck with your efforts. >>>>> B.r., David >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: steve spence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> >>>>> Date: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 5:43 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [biofuel] First Batch >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> cogen units in the shed ;-) >>>>>> >>>>>> Steve Spence >>>>>> Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: >>>>>> http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm >>>>>> >>>>>> Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com >>>>>> Palm Pilot Pages - http://www.webconx.com/palm >>>>>> X10 Home Automation - http://www.webconx.com/x10 >>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> (212) 894-3704 x3154 - voicemail/fax >>>>>> We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, >>>>>> we borrow it from our children. >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Ed Beggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>> To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> >>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 11:36 AM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [biofuel] First Batch >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> VW engines with shavings in them would be mostly from the abuse > and >>>>>> neglect >>>>>>> heaped upon them by their owners who don't know where the hood > latch >>>> and >>>>>>> drain plug is (and block heater, and air filter, and water >> separator, >>>>>>> and...) ...wait a minute, that's more true of Volvo owners...well, >> at >>>>>> least >>>>>>> that solves the mystery of why the VW diesel never lasted very long >> in >>>> a >>>>>>> Volvo! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The VW wears at 10 times the rate of the Cummins, so if a VW engine >>>> lasts >>>>>>> 500,000 kms, Ed's probably going to be driving that Dodge a long >> time >>>>> even >>>>>>> with a few microscopic bits of stuff in a small amount of oil (as a >>>>>>> percentage) of fuel. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> BTW, what are we going to do with all those 100-year Cummins >> engines >>>>>> after >>>>>>> the rest of the 10-year Dodge wears out? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ;-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ed >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: "steve spence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>> Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com >>>>>>>> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:14:01 -0500 >>>>>>>> To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [biofuel] First Batch >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> VW engines ;-) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Steve Spence >>>>>>>> Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: >>>>>>>> http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com >>>>>>>> Palm Pilot Pages - http://www.webconx.com/palm >>>>>>>> X10 Home Automation - http://www.webconx.com/x10 >>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>> (212) 894-3704 x3154 - voicemail/fax >>>>>>>> We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, >>>>>>>> we borrow it from our children. >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: "Ed Service" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>> To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> >>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 10:57 AM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [biofuel] First Batch >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Of course I had to filter the used oil extremely well and also >> let >>>> it >>>>>>>> settle >>>>>>>>> for considerable time! What kind of engine would have metal >>> shavings >>>>> in >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> oil? Remind me so I'll never get one of them! Definitely there > is >>>> iron >>>>>> in >>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>> from normal wear and silicon from the dirt that sneaks in< these >>>> have >>>>>> to >>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>> removed! But it does add lubricidy to the oil! >>>>>>>>> Ed Service >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>> From: "steve spence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>>> To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 6:52 AM >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [biofuel] First Batch >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> depends on his filtration system, but I wouldn't do it >> personally. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Steve Spence >>>>>>>>>> Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: >>>>>>>>>> http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com >>>>>>>>>> Palm Pilot Pages - http://www.webconx.com/palm >>>>>>>>>> X10 Home Automation - http://www.webconx.com/x10 >>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>>> (212) 894-3704 x3154 - voicemail/fax >>>>>>>>>> We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, >>>>>>>>>> we borrow it from our children. >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>> From: "Troy Heagy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>>>> To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 8:03 AM >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [biofuel] First Batch >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Ed Service" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>>>>>> Is it true that synthetic oils like Mobil 1 and Amsoil are >>>> actually >>>>>>>>>>>> Biodiesel based? On my old truck ,a 93 dodge Cummins, I used >>>> Mobil >>>>>>>>> Delvac >>>>>>>>>>>> oil in the crankcase changing it at 20000 km's Then, mixed > the >>>> old >>>>>>>> oil >>>>>>>>>> I'd >>>>>>>>>>>> removed from the engine into the fuel >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Isn't that a bad idea? I thought old oil was filled with >>>> particles >>>>>>>>>>> (including metal shavings)? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Troy >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >> _________________________________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at >> http://explorer.msn.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >>>>>>>>>>> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send an email to: >>>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to >>>>>>>>> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >>>>>>>>>> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send an email to: >>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to >>>>>>>> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >>>>>>>>> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send an email to: >>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to >>>>>> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >>>>>>>> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send an email to: >>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to >>>>>> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >>>>>>> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send an email to: >>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to >>>> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >>>>>> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >>>>>> To unsubscribe, send an email to: >>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> >>>>>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to >>> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >>>>> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >>>>> To unsubscribe, send an email to: >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> >>>>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to >> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >>>> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >>>> To unsubscribe, send an email to: >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >>> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >>> To unsubscribe, send an email to: >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >>> >>> >> >> >> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >> To unsubscribe, send an email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >> >> >> > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
