Tim, I think he just had too much in the way of good manners to respond to such an obviously bigoted and uninformed tirade. I live in the midwest, worked on a farm in my youth, and have met hundreds of farmers...You, obviuosly have not.
I know that there are a small number of "farmers" that are rich enough to "go south" for the brutal midwestern winter, but the vast majority are barely able to scratch out a living and make the mortgage and tax payments. To charachterize them all as you have not only broadcasts your lack of familiarity with the true condition of the midwestern farmer...it shows all who care to read such a rabid commentary your willingness to promulgate hate. You seem to be proud that you "turned someone off" of this discussion group. Shame on you. Dana --- Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Tim > > You don't like 'em much, then? :-) > > Anyway, seems he didn't like your babble either, nor > my further > babble - he just unsubscribed! No doubt in high > dudgeon. Pity he > didn't/couldn't respond. I really wanted to know if > he grew any food > on his farm. Altogether a pity he left, of course - > maybe he was > after making ethanol from some of that corn (or bd > from the soy) to > defray his energy/fertiliser costs, might even have > learnt something > in the doing. But I guess the fact that he left so > peremptorily > indicates that he can't abide any opinion other than > his own anyway, > not the kind of mindset that learns stuff easily. > You probably hit > the mark all too accurately. > > Best > > Keith Addison > Journey to Forever > Handmade Projects > Tokyo > http://journeytoforever.org/ > > > > > > Well now, isnt that just pure babble. Of > course its about > > >profit, there are people in the midwest trying to > make a living. > >As far >as corp-orations go, you cant outlaw them, > they for the most > >part are >you and I, kinda like big, bad > government. > > > >Living in Arizona these past 17 years, and working > as an HVAC > >contractor, I have met many dozens of farmers from > the midwest. They > >come here in the winter to avoid the severe weather > up north. They > >spend $30 to $150k on flimsy manufactured housing > which are enclosed > >in 8 foot block walls with 24/7 guards at the > gates. They invariably > >drive big new Oldsmobiles and dress very nice. They > also spend lots > >of money eating in restaurants & partaking of local > recreation & > >entertainment. When it starts to warm up, they > close up the "winter" > >homes and go back north. These then sit empty for > months, while > >thousands are living in the desert, under bridges > and in substandard > >housing. My conclusion: These folks are just as > greedy and selfish > >as any big corp, maybe even more so as I see very > little > >contribution to our communities from them, unless > it is in the form > >of some self serving charitable activity they > enjoy, without getting > >their hands too dirty. These people are doing > nothing to "m! > >ake a living", they contribute little or nothing to > our communities > >(except that they hire locals to clean their houses > & pull their > >weeds). > >It was these same families that depleted the > midwest farmlands to > >the point of the notorious "dustbowl" years. This > mess was cleaned > >up using public funds (USDA) and the farmers > returned to the land. > >Now I learn that once again selfish, ignorant, > greedy farmers are > >busy about killing off a substantial portion of the > Gulf, and your > >only defense is that you are feeding cows, which > has been proven to > >be the most wasteful, inefficient, environmentally > damaging and > >stupid way to feed people. I'll pass on the beef. > >Sorry for the rant, but you Mr. Midwest farmer, > need to take > >responsibility for your industries actions. Perhaps > you are not one > >of the ones with a "winter" home here, but if not, > I bet you would > >like to be! And I bet you will dump any amount of > poison on the land > >to achieve that! Take responsibility! Learn what > you are doing in > >the big picture. We need you to do this. The world > needs you to do > >this. Please don't retreat into your small world of > concern only for > >your immediate family. > > > > >As far as the remark about not helping feed the > world, I dont > > >know if the rest of the world could fill in the > void if we shut down > > >for the year or not, I suppose you could eat soy > burgers or >something, > > >oh I forgot we raise soybeans to. One other > thing, if you dont want > > >to > > >contract mad cow, just keep chomping on that good > ole USA beef >that > > >by the way eats the corn I raise. > > > >What's wrong with soy burgers? > > > >Tim > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
