as staunchly as i support freedom, i also support respect for others, and their rights. this is a discussion list, with albeit broad but well defined subjects of interest.
taking up other people's bandwidth with never ending discussions on a limerick's origin or phrasing is not my idea of respect for other's rights. offline is available to all to pursue such interests, methinks. good manners are the glue that keep a civilized society in relative harmony. i'm sorry there are people in the list who miss this point and act egotistically, uncaring of other member's discomfort. those who have left the list wrote that they did so because, being interested in our 'raison d'etre', they were instead swamped with frivolous, totally uncalled for postings dealing with themes totally outside of our subjects of interest. there are many humor lists and poetry lists out there that will more than welcome these folk's efforts. not that a bit of humor now and then is not welcome; but when it disregards the list's interests, it harms the lists purpose. i, for one can tell who cares for other peoples feelings and time by such actions, as well as by the lack of editing that accompanies many of the postings. these are usually the same people who vociferously defend their 'given rights', as they simultaneously forget that all of us have the same rights. do onto others... (and will somebody with authority please send the unsolicited court jester on a looooooooong vacation, with no return ticket ?) after all, why should i have to miss somebody's interesting posting on biofuels, and/or alternative energies, just to keep a babbling idiot happy ?? i think i have my rights too... cheers, dick. let's get real, please. ----- Original Message ----- From: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Martes 24 de Abril de 2001 05:45 Subject: [biofuel] Digest Number 384 Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 20 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Re: Pump & Motor resource... From: "David Reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2. Re: unsubscribe From: "Rob evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3. Re: more windpower - Scam!? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4. Re: unsubscribe From: "steve spence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 5. Re: Pump & Motor resource... From: "Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 6. Re: more windpower - Scam!? From: "Dr. Gary Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 7. Re: more windpower - Scam!? From: "David Reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 8. Re: more windpower - Scam!? From: "David Reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 9. Re: Sea Shanty From: "Dr. Gary Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10. Re: Sea shanty From: "Dr. Gary Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11. Re: Re: Sea shanty From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12. Wet Blanket was Sea shanty From: "Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 13. Re: Wet Blanket was Sea shanty From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 14. uk methanol source From: "Ian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 15. Re: methanol reclaiming From: "Ian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 16. RE: Wet Blanket was Sea shanty From: Mike Brownstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 17. RE: biofuels and gardners From: Mike Brownstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 18. Re: uk methanol source From: "Biofuels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 19. Re: Wet Blanket was Sea shanty From: "David Reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 20. Re: Wet Blanket was Sea shanty From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 11:40:56 +1200 From: "David Reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Pump & Motor resource... Todd, Thanks for the info. Took me 10 minutes to figure it out but area code for the fax number is wrong. Area code for Lincoln is 402 not 877. B.r., David > Surplus Center > 1015 West "O" Street > P.O. Box 82209 > Lincoln, Nebraska 68501-2209 > > Fax: 877-474-5198 > Watts: 800-488-3407 > > Happy bargain shopping... > > Todd > Appal Energy > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 01:11:14 +0100 From: "Rob evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: unsubscribe ONCE AGAIN.... please be so kind as to unsubscribe me from this newsgroup. whilst at the same time thanking you for previous knowledge ive gained here. regards Rob Evans ----- Original Message ----- From: sarah momsen To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] unsubscribe i second that, please also unsubscribe me from the list i was at first interested in researching uses of bio diesal but i don't have the time to go through 100+ emails almost daily [EMAIL PROTECTED] thanks --- Rob evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > please unsubscribe me from this group, > i was very keen on the fuels side of this newsgroup > when i joined, im all for self sufficiency, and cost > savings regarding energy, but this group seems to be > getting too bogged down with the environmental and > political issues now. > get back to offering practical home fuel brewing > information and the likes, it was much more fun > then. > > regards...... > Rob > ----- Original Message ----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 1:06 AM > Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Digest Number 372 > > > i know, that's why i said it was impossible, sorta > like don kornholio. > ARE YOU THREATENING ME!!!!!!!!!!???? aa aooooa > oao aoggog > aoogoggggggogoaogoooaooaghh. > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 21:54:56 -0300 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: more windpower - Scam!? i believe i read it as a heading in an asimov book, maybe heinlein, but i don't remember heinlein being so sexual in his writing, though he did write my favorite book. "Dr. Gary Nelson" wrote: > Yar, mate. Thet be the one > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > circumcising > > that's the one. > > tommy loy the cabin boy > > dirty little nipper > > stuffed his ass with broken glass > > and circumcised the skipper > > > > seems painful for both parties. > > > > "Dr. Gary Nelson" wrote: > > > > > And one about circumscribing the skipper.... > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > > i seem to remember one about tommy loy the cabin boy. > > > > > > > > Biofuels wrote: > > > > > > > > > The Cabin Boy's name was Carter > > > > > By gosh, he was a *arter! > > > > > When the wind wouldn't blow > > > > > and the ship wouldn't go, > > > > > They got Carter the *arter to start'er! > > > > > > > > > > Wind can be so unreliable - or "intermittent", as Shell > > > International > > > > > would > > > > > have it! > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > > > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > > > > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >-- www.skaar.101main.net from 20:00 to 7:30 AST, ask for free access to the hidden directories. www.geocities.com/skaar0 for the speedier, full time version, i put the newest stuff on my home site moderator of [EMAIL PROTECTED] lord of the minuet. nutty artist axtraordinaire. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 21:21:09 -0400 From: "steve spence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: unsubscribe > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Is at the bottom of every email. No one can do it for you. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com Palm Pilot Pages - http://www.webconx.com/palm X10 Home Automation - http://www.webconx.com/x10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (212) 894-3704 x3154 - voicemail/fax We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children. -- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 8:11 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] unsubscribe > ONCE AGAIN.... please be so kind as to unsubscribe me from this newsgroup. > > whilst at the same time thanking you for previous knowledge ive gained here. > > regards > Rob Evans > ----- Original Message ----- > From: sarah momsen > To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 8:13 PM > Subject: Re: [biofuel] unsubscribe > > > i second that, > please also unsubscribe me from the list > i was at first interested in researching uses of bio > diesal but i don't have the time to go through 100+ > emails almost daily > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > thanks > --- Rob evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > please unsubscribe me from this group, > > i was very keen on the fuels side of this newsgroup > > when i joined, im all for self sufficiency, and cost > > savings regarding energy, but this group seems to be > > getting too bogged down with the environmental and > > political issues now. > > get back to offering practical home fuel brewing > > information and the likes, it was much more fun > > then. > > > > regards...... > > Rob > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 1:06 AM > > Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Digest Number 372 > > > > > > i know, that's why i said it was impossible, sorta > > like don kornholio. > > ARE YOU THREATENING ME!!!!!!!!!!???? aa aooooa > > oao aoggog > > aoogoggggggogoaogoooaooaghh. > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 22:26:41 -0400 From: "Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Pump & Motor resource... Sorry David, It's a toll free fax. I guess 877 is similar to 888 and 800 now. I'm darn glad I got an 800 number before they ran out. Todd ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Pump & Motor resource... > Todd, > Thanks for the info. Took me 10 minutes to figure it out but area > code for the fax number is wrong. Area code for Lincoln is 402 not 877. > B.r., David > > > Surplus Center > > 1015 West "O" Street > > P.O. Box 82209 > > Lincoln, Nebraska 68501-2209 > > > > Fax: 877-474-5198 > > Watts: 800-488-3407 > > > > Happy bargain shopping... > > > > Todd > > Appal Energy > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 21:34:57 -0500 From: "Dr. Gary Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: more windpower - Scam!? I heard it on a 33rpm record called Bawdy Songs and Backroom Ballads -- eons ago. GN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > i believe i read it as a heading in an asimov book, maybe heinlein, but > i don't remember heinlein being so sexual in his writing, though he did > write my favorite book. > > "Dr. Gary Nelson" wrote: > > > Yar, mate. Thet be the one > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > circumcising > > > that's the one. > > > tommy loy the cabin boy > > > dirty little nipper > > > stuffed his ass with broken glass > > > and circumcised the skipper > > > > > > seems painful for both parties. > > > > > > "Dr. Gary Nelson" wrote: > > > > > > > And one about circumscribing the skipper.... > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > > > > i seem to remember one about tommy loy the cabin boy. > > > > > > > > > > Biofuels wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > The Cabin Boy's name was Carter > > > > > > By gosh, he was a *arter! > > > > > > When the wind wouldn't blow > > > > > > and the ship wouldn't go, > > > > > > They got Carter the *arter to start'er! > > > > > > > > > > > > Wind can be so unreliable - or "intermittent", as Shell > > > > International > > > > > > would > > > > > > have it! > > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > > > > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > > > > > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >-- > > www.skaar.101main.net from 20:00 to 7:30 AST, ask for free access to the > hidden directories. > www.geocities.com/skaar0 for the speedier, full time version, i put the > newest stuff on my home site > moderator of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > lord of the minuet. > nutty artist axtraordinaire. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Dr. Gary A. Nelson Zynrgy Group Inc 20708 Deerpath Road Barrington, IL 60010-3787 USA +1.847.304.0000 +1.847.304.1929 fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 14:39:35 +1200 From: "David Reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: more windpower - Scam!? Thought this was from an old British sailors shanty originally. Maybe wrong as I dont know or certainly cant remember hearing the whole thing. Believe if I remember rightly that it seemed to start with the words: "We sailed on the good ship Venus, By God you should have seen us ............etc. Maybe I've got it completely wrong. B.r., David ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] more windpower - Scam!? > i believe i read it as a heading in an asimov book, maybe heinlein, but > i don't remember heinlein being so sexual in his writing, though he did > write my favorite book. > > "Dr. Gary Nelson" wrote: > > > Yar, mate. Thet be the one > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > circumcising > > > that's the one. > > > tommy loy the cabin boy > > > dirty little nipper > > > stuffed his ass with broken glass > > > and circumcised the skipper > > > > > > seems painful for both parties. > > > > > > "Dr. Gary Nelson" wrote: > > > > > > > And one about circumscribing the skipper.... > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > > > > i seem to remember one about tommy loy the cabin boy. > > > > > > > > > > Biofuels wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > The Cabin Boy's name was Carter > > > > > > By gosh, he was a *arter! > > > > > > When the wind wouldn't blow > > > > > > and the ship wouldn't go, > > > > > > They got Carter the *arter to start'er! > > > > > > > > > > > > Wind can be so unreliable - or "intermittent", as Shell > > > > International > > > > > > would > > > > > > have it! > > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > > > > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > > > > > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >-- > > www.skaar.101main.net from 20:00 to 7:30 AST, ask for free access to the > hidden directories. > www.geocities.com/skaar0 for the speedier, full time version, i put the > newest stuff on my home site > moderator of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > lord of the minuet. > nutty artist axtraordinaire. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 8 Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 14:53:30 +1200 From: "David Reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: more windpower - Scam!? Believe you would be right. Was just thinking that Ballad would be a better term than shanty. Must be all of 30 years since I heard it B.r., David ----- Original Message ----- From: Dr. Gary Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] more windpower - Scam!? > I heard it on a 33rpm record called Bawdy Songs and Backroom > Ballads -- eons ago. > > GN ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 9 Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 22:03:34 -0500 From: "Dr. Gary Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Sea Shanty That's it all right. I can't recall the verses. GN David Reid wrote: > > Thought this was from an old British sailors shanty originally. Maybe wrong > as I dont know or certainly cant remember hearing the whole thing. Believe > if I remember rightly that it seemed to start with the words: "We sailed on > the good ship Venus, By God you should have seen us ............etc. Maybe > I've got it completely wrong. > B.r., David > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 12:54 PM > Subject: Re: [biofuel] more windpower - Scam!? > > > i believe i read it as a heading in an asimov book, maybe heinlein, but > > i don't remember heinlein being so sexual in his writing, though he did > > write my favorite book. > > > > "Dr. Gary Nelson" wrote: > > > > > Yar, mate. Thet be the one > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > > circumcising > > > > that's the one. > > > > tommy loy the cabin boy > > > > dirty little nipper > > > > stuffed his ass with broken glass > > > > and circumcised the skipper > > > > > > > > seems painful for both parties. > > > > > > > > "Dr. Gary Nelson" wrote: > > > > > > > > > And one about circumscribing the skipper.... > > > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > i seem to remember one about tommy loy the cabin boy. > > > > > > > > > > > > Biofuels wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Cabin Boy's name was Carter > > > > > > > By gosh, he was a *arter! > > > > > > > When the wind wouldn't blow > > > > > > > and the ship wouldn't go, > > > > > > > They got Carter the *arter to start'er! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wind can be so unreliable - or "intermittent", as Shell > > > > > International > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > have it! > > > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > > > > > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > >-- > > > > www.skaar.101main.net from 20:00 to 7:30 AST, ask for free access to the > > hidden directories. > > www.geocities.com/skaar0 for the speedier, full time version, i put the > > newest stuff on my home site > > moderator of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > lord of the minuet. > > nutty artist axtraordinaire. > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Dr. Gary A. Nelson Zynrgy Group Inc 20708 Deerpath Road Barrington, IL 60010-3787 USA +1.847.304.0000 +1.847.304.1929 fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 10 Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 22:09:07 -0500 From: "Dr. Gary Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Sea shanty A shanty it was fer sure, and 30 years or more since I heard it as well -- 33rpms is a hint. Also a duo in a coffee house in Newport Beach played it in about 1959. Memories for sure GN David Reid wrote: > > Believe you would be right. Was just thinking that Ballad would be a better > term than shanty. Must be all of 30 years since I heard it > B.r., David > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dr. Gary Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 2:34 PM > Subject: Re: [biofuel] more windpower - Scam!? > > > I heard it on a 33rpm record called Bawdy Songs and Backroom > > Ballads -- eons ago. > > > > GN > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Dr. Gary A. Nelson Zynrgy Group Inc 20708 Deerpath Road Barrington, IL 60010-3787 USA +1.847.304.0000 +1.847.304.1929 fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 11 Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 00:20:10 -0300 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: Sea shanty early 90's for me. "Dr. Gary Nelson" wrote: > A shanty it was fer sure, and 30 years or more since I heard > it as well -- 33rpms is a hint. > Also a duo in a coffee house in Newport Beach played it in > about 1959. > > Memories for sure > > GN > > David Reid wrote: > > > > Believe you would be right. Was just thinking that Ballad would be a > better > > term than shanty. Must be all of 30 years since I heard it > > B.r., David > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Dr. Gary Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 2:34 PM > > Subject: Re: [biofuel] more windpower - Scam!? > > > > > I heard it on a 33rpm record called Bawdy Songs and Backroom > > > Ballads -- eons ago. > > > > > > GN > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > -- > > Dr. Gary A. Nelson > Zynrgy Group Inc > 20708 Deerpath Road > Barrington, IL 60010-3787 > USA > +1.847.304.0000 > +1.847.304.1929 fax > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor [www.debticated.com] > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- www.skaar.101main.net from 20:00 to 7:30 AST, ask for free access to the hidden directories. www.geocities.com/skaar0 for the speedier, full time version, i put the newest stuff on my home site moderator of [EMAIL PROTECTED] lord of the minuet. nutty artist axtraordinaire. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 12 Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 00:11:43 -0400 From: "Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Wet Blanket was Sea shanty Sorry if I appear to be the proverbial wet blanket, but has anyone noticed several unsubscription requests lately referring to excessive correspondence which they are unable to plow through, as well as "off topic" material? Would it be entirely out of line to suggest that we seriously attempt to limit the lightheartedness, joviality and frivolity of off topic material to off list conversation? Just a purist, die-hard, extremist who would prefer to keep as many people in the loop for as long as possible - all the while attempting to maintain my sanity in an insane world. Todd Swearingen Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 13 Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 02:51:16 -0300 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Wet Blanket was Sea shanty maybe another group, biofuelsOT. Appal Energy wrote: > Sorry if I appear to be the proverbial wet blanket, but has anyone > noticed > several unsubscription requests lately referring to excessive > correspondence > which they are unable to plow through, as well as "off topic" > material? > > Would it be entirely out of line to suggest that we seriously attempt > to > limit the lightheartedness, joviality and frivolity of off topic > material to > off list conversation? > > Just a purist, die-hard, extremist who would prefer to keep as many > people > in the loop for as long as possible - all the while attempting to > maintain > my sanity in an insane world. > > Todd Swearingen > Appal Energy > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- www.skaar.101main.net from 20:00 to 7:30 AST, ask for free access to the hidden directories. www.geocities.com/skaar0 for the speedier, full time version, i put the newest stuff on my home site moderator of [EMAIL PROTECTED] lord of the minuet. nutty artist axtraordinaire. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 14 Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 08:29:20 +0100 From: "Ian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: uk methanol source So who can supply Methanol at under £100 inc vat for 205 litres here in the uk? Ian [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 15 Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 08:29:57 +0100 From: "Ian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: methanol reclaiming Thanks Todd :) ----- Original Message ----- From: Appal Energy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 10:15 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] methanol reclaiming > > Has anyone got any Methanol reclaiming details they could supply me? > ........... > > Ian, > > You will have to build yourself an evaporative condenser capable of > maintaining a temp of 165 Fahrenheit, slightly above the boiling temp of > methanol. > > It will consist of an airtight "pot" (except for the vaporous outlet port) > of your desired volume, a heat source - open flame unadvisable due to > immediate liquid and vaporous methanol - a drain valve for the residual > glycerin, a fill valve for introducing the methanol laden glycerin, a > continual vaporous outlet off the top of the pot into a cooling condenser, > preferably water cooled. > > The cooling condenser's drain should be continuous into a "closed" > collection container, same container having a vent tube extended well > outside and above the building or considerably away from the activity (when > outside) to vent off all methanol tainted vapors that are positively > displaced from the final collection container. > > The closed system precludes almost entirely the introduction of water into > the recovered methanol via atmospheric humidity. > > Check the pH of the glycerin and neutralize prior to utilizing the glycerin > in further endeavors. > > Todd > Appal Energy > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 16 Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 09:22:33 +0200 From: Mike Brownstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Wet Blanket was Sea shanty I vote for letting people say what they want to say. Besides, it only takes me ten minutes a day to go thru it all. Its called a delete button. Point noted, though!!! Mike -----Original Message----- From: Appal Energy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 6:12 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] Wet Blanket was Sea shanty Sorry if I appear to be the proverbial wet blanket, but has anyone noticed several unsubscription requests lately referring to excessive correspondence which they are unable to plow through, as well as "off topic" material? Would it be entirely out of line to suggest that we seriously attempt to limit the lightheartedness, joviality and frivolity of off topic material to off list conversation? Just a purist, die-hard, extremist who would prefer to keep as many people in the loop for as long as possible - all the while attempting to maintain my sanity in an insane world. Todd Swearingen Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 17 Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 09:22:31 +0200 From: Mike Brownstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: biofuels and gardners David, Perhaps you can help me. I not that you have referred to the ' old Gardiners and earlier diesels'. I have two L8 Gardners in a motor launch (ML1200 old 1943 military vessel). I have been unable to locate Gardners UK for spares. Do you have any info on this. By the way, I've started making biodiesal for her use. Thanks to you people out there. Second question: Is there any difference in energy content between, for instance, one liter of sunflower biodiesal and one liter of palm oil biodiesal? In other words, is there a better performance in km/liter for the better oil? Mike Brownstone -----Original Message----- From: David Reid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 9:20 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] vehicles Ed, Steven et al, T.P. bypass filters are ideal for cleaning diesel and other similar fuels as they remove the asphaltine particles which are the major cause of combustion soot and other contamination. I sell bypass filters especially for this purpose. They are identical to the by-pass oil filters except the orifice restriction of 50 thou which is required to drop the velocity so the oil is filtered properly and only a small percentage is bled off at any given time has been opened out or removed so the diesel has unrestricted flow and is matched to the injector or engine requirement. They also have a tap on the bottom so that the water which separates out and sits on the bottom of the cannister can be regularly bled off. After looking at or replacing everyone I have installed I now know all diesel is dirty even if it looks perfectly clean to the natural eye. When you see what these things remove you can understand why quite a lot of the modern diesels which are built to much finer tolerances dont last anything like the old Gardiners and earlier diesels. B.r., David Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 18 Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 08:50:33 +0100 From: "Biofuels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: uk methanol source Yellow pages - Chemicals suppliers ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 19 Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 20:24:12 +1200 From: "David Reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Wet Blanket was Sea shanty Todd, Thanks for the timely reminder but as someone who tends to be serious by nature and takes myself too seriously at times, I need to escape from my seriousness occasionaly, step outside my human frailty and have a good laugh at myself and life in general so I remain at least partially human. As an old Scotsman said to me years ago "your a long time dead Davy boy". As I travel through life I realize your pretty stuffed without a sense of humour so I have always tried to maintain mine. Looking after my folks for the last 12 years during the last years of their lives hasnt been easy but having a sense of humour has certainly helped and made it that much easier. Looking back I say to myself hell I would never do that again, other times I realize how fortunate I was to be the son of two people who truly loved one another even if it made me a member of a truly minority group of the human race. If we have people who join and leave of their own volition I and we cant do anything about it, that is their choice. I just hope that they learned and added something to all of us from their time no matter how long that is or was. Again thanks for your time, input, help and concern.. B.r., David ----- Original Message ----- From: Appal Energy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 4:11 PM Subject: [biofuel] Wet Blanket was Sea shanty > Sorry if I appear to be the proverbial wet blanket, but has anyone noticed > several unsubscription requests lately referring to excessive correspondence > which they are unable to plow through, as well as "off topic" material? > > Would it be entirely out of line to suggest that we seriously attempt to > limit the lightheartedness, joviality and frivolity of off topic material to > off list conversation? > > Just a purist, die-hard, extremist who would prefer to keep as many people > in the loop for as long as possible - all the while attempting to maintain > my sanity in an insane world. > > Todd Swearingen > Appal Energy > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 20 Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 05:31:00 -0300 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Wet Blanket was Sea shanty different personal situations, but feelings summed up well. David Reid wrote: > Todd, > Thanks for the timely reminder but as someone who tends to be > > serious by nature and takes myself too seriously at times, I need to > escape > from my seriousness occasionaly, step outside my human frailty and > have a > good laugh at myself and life in general so I remain at least > partially > human. As an old Scotsman said to me years ago "your a long time dead > Davy > boy". As I travel through life I realize your pretty stuffed without a > sense > of humour so I have always tried to maintain mine. Looking after my > folks > for the last 12 years during the last years of their lives hasnt been > easy > but having a sense of humour has certainly helped and made it that > much > easier. Looking back I say to myself hell I would never do that > again, > other times I realize how fortunate I was to be the son of two people > who > truly loved one another even if it made me a member of a truly > minority > group of the human race. If we have people who join and leave of their > own > volition I and we cant do anything about it, that is their choice. I > just > hope that they learned and added something to all of us from their > time no > matter how long that is or was. Again thanks for your time, input, > help and > concern.. > B.r., David -- www.skaar.101main.net from 20:00 to 7:30 AST, ask for free access to the hidden directories. www.geocities.com/skaar0 for the speedier, full time version, i put the newest stuff on my home site moderator of [EMAIL PROTECTED] lord of the minuet. nutty artist axtraordinaire. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
