as countries like china develop, I believe his figures might end up being conservative. He knows his topic, and is a respected scientist. Doesn't make him right, but does lend credence to what he says.
Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com Palm Pilot Pages - http://www.webconx.com/palm X10 Home Automation - http://www.webconx.com/x10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (212) 894-3704 x3154 - voicemail/fax We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children. -- ----- Original Message ----- From: "F. Marc de Piolenc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Biofuel List" <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 8:02 AM Subject: [biofuel] We don't need no stinking efficiency!!!! > > This article makes the Malthusian error of assuming that a quantity will > continue to grow along a simple exponential, when in fact real living > systems always level off through interaction with others. > > Using the same simplistic, pseudo-scientific arguments, one can easily > "prove" that Mankind is already extinct. > > Very silly - and discredits the idea of resource conservation when the > kids realize that the argument is bogus. Glad I didn't have this guy for > a teacher. > > Marc de Piolenc > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 08:29:54 +1200 > From: "David Reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: We don't need no stinking efficiency!!!! (?) > > Todd, > A good article and one everyone on this group should read. I > recently said it is estimated that if we keep finding oil at the same > rate > it is estimated that we have a 70 year supply but that I believe we > could > halve that with the increasing number of vehicles and countries like > China > coming on stream. While I have never sat down and done the maths the > examples below show that I may not be too far off the mark. > B.r., David > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Appal Energy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 2:00 AM > Subject: [biofuel] We don't need no stinking efficiency!!!! (?) > > > > New York Times, OP-ED, June 4, 2001 > > http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/04/opinion/04NERI.html > > > > The Mirage of a Growing Fuel Supply > > By EVAR D. NERING > > > > COTTSDALE, Ariz. - When I discussed the exponential function in the > > first-semester calculus classes that I taught, I invariably used > consumption > > of a nonrenewable natural resource as an example. Since we are now engaged > > in a national debate about energy policy, it may be useful to talk about > the > > mathematics involved in making a rational decision about resource use. > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/