Hi Martin,
Thanks for the info. I have not received any info yet from companies I
written to as to how much zeolite cost. As soon as I find out I will post it
on this web. Good luck to you with your final exam.
Ron
----- Original Message -----
From: Martin Klingensmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] zeolite


> Molar mass of CH3CH2OH = ~46g
> Molar mass of H20 = ~33g
>
> Assuming you have 100 pounds of ethanol at 90%, you
> have around 9 pounds of water in there. Eight pounds
> of water being 30% [conservative figure] means 100% of
> the zeolite would be 25 pounds. [This was done in my
> head and it's probably erroneous by at least 10%]
> Not bad if zeolite is what I think it is, it can be
> dryed/reused.
> How much does your zeolite cost?
> -Martin Klingensmith
> [high school student, chemistry final is next week :)]
> --- ronald miller sr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > According to companies who are listed on the web,
> > zeolite 3A will absorb 30
> > to 40% of its weight in water. I have read that 3A
> > stands for 3
> > angstrums(spelling) and as I understand water
> > molecues are bigger than that,
> > it also will allow ethanol to pass right through but
> > trapping the water.
> > But, how much zeolite do you need to filter a gallon
> > of ethanol to make it
> > anhydrous. I don't know. Maybe one of our chemistry
> > majors can help us with
> > that. Anyone?
> > Regards,
> > Ron Miller
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Martin Klingensmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 5:50 PM
> > Subject: Re: [biofuel] zeolite
> >
> >
> > > Use molecular sieves to absorb water from
> > > ethanol/methanol.
> > > That's what they're made for and they're
> > > reusable/nontoxic.
> > >
> > > --- Ken Provost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >Do you have any idea how much zeolite cost? I
> > don't
> > > > have a
> > > > >clue.
> > > > >Thanks for writing.
> > > > >Ron Miller
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > According to the web source Keith provided, it's
> > > > about $10 per pound,
> > > > but I was quoted that much for silica gel, so it
> > > > might be more now.
> > > > BTW, the same source says only 10% of its weight
> > in
> > > > absorbed water, not
> > > > the 25% I mentioned. Sounds low....silica gel is
> > > > good up to 40% of its weight,
> > > > but it's not very selective -- may absorb
> > ethanol
> > > > nearly as much as water.
> > > > Does anyone know?   -K
> > > >
> > >
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