>I also believe that we should always help the poor. Someone once said
>something like "give a man a fish and feed him, teach the man to fish and he
>can feed himself". Another great man said " The poor will always be with
>you". There is plenty of food in this world. There is also plenty of
>unfarmed land in this world. Maybe if the rich countries would help teach
>the poor countries how to be good farmers it would help reduce world hunger.
>I often look a very wealthy people and wonder how much more money do they
>need. This whole thing is about life and how to live it as comfortably as is
>possible. Maybe one day we will have a breakthrough in a technonlgy that
>will help us feed those less fortunate than we. I hope it is soon.
>Ron

Well, let me try again! Not worth paying too much attention to Harry, 
below - he only sees what agrees with him. As you say, there's plenty 
of food in this world. The problem is not that the poor countries 
need to be taught how to farm by the rich countries - the rich 
countries, and mainly the US, are net food importers on a massive 
scale, and much of that food comes from the poor countries. No 
technological "fix" is needed to reduce world hunger - so far such 
efforts have only made it worse: increasing the hunger and making the 
rich richer. Harry sees some weird conflict between environmental 
protection and restoring some form of equity and "closing the 
economic gap", which is indeed the true cause of most hunger - 
somehow environmentalism causes poverty, or promotes poverty, he 
says. Or something. He seems unable to provide any examples, 
instances, references for this, as with much else, and ignores 
anything to the contrary. Well, that's his problem, there is no such 
conflict. Please check out these links:

The Myth of Scarcity
http://www.foodfirst.org/pubs/backgrdrs/1998/w98v5n1.html
12 Myths About Hunger
http://www.foodfirst.org/pubs/backgrdrs/1998/s98v5n3.html

http://journeytoforever.org/community.html
http://journeytoforever.org/community2.html

This all started, by the way, with Harry's stating that if the 
industrialised countries turned to biofuels it would cause mass 
starvation in the Third World.

Best wishes

Keith Addison
Journey to Forever
Handmade Projects
Tokyo
http://journeytoforever.org/

 
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 1:15 AM
>Subject: [biofuel] Re: We don't need no stinking efficiency!!!! (?)
>
>
> > I reread the Food first stuff and found the same as before:
> > World hunger is like a beggar looking in the window of a restruant or
> > Macdonalds. I agree that we need to do something about that. Indeed I
> > would like that to be my focus.
> > There is nothing to suggest that slowing the rate of increase in
> > productive capacity will help the poor. Indeed my point is that
> > finding ways of closing the economic gap has a higher priority than
> > many "green" issues if we are to achieve ecological sustainability.
> > OK  concurrent will do. We should be able to feed the world without

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