Kirk,

Sorry. Swamped here.

Thanks for the input. There are still a lot of gullible people. And a lot of
people are counting on that.

Sounds like your history can be of service to a lot of people.

You could document it you know?

Todd
Appal Energy
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----- Original Message -----
From: "kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 11:35 PM
Subject: RE: Energy Related Deaths are "Meaningless?" - A Primer in the
History of Nuclear Accidents was lRe: [biofuel] Excess deaths from power
industries


> Todd, I used to work in the radiation business.
> There are "situations" that never occurred unless you were one of the
people
> present.
> Secrecy and denial are part of the job.
>
> Sad but true. The reality of radiation is an unknown. I suppose someone
> somewhere has access to the non events but they aren't part of statistics
> for public consumption. NRC risk assessment is a sales job.
>
> Kirk
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Appal Energy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 6:26 PM
> To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Energy Related Deaths are "Meaningless?" - A Primer in the
> History of Nuclear Accidents was lRe: [biofuel] Excess deaths from power
> industries
>
>
> WARNING:
>
> This message is lengthy and filled with information. If you are averse to
> the thought of better comprehending the historical record of the nuclear
> power industry, please walk away from the screen.
> ........................
> PREVIOUS MESSAGE:
>
> > > > The NRC calculates that this level of
> > > > radiation release
> > > > spread over the population will cause 12 cancer
> > > > deaths per reactor."
> >
> > Possibly true (can't verify the numbers, but know them to be non-zero).
> > Now let's have the excess death figures for other forms of power
> > generation, starting with coal-fired steam plants...
> >
> > Bottom line: there are no cost-free power technologies - only better and
> > worse ones. So the figures are meaningless unless other power
> > technologies' excess deaths are presented for comparison. Without those,
> > the article is just scare tactics.
> >
> > Marc de Piolenc
> .......................
>
> PREFACE:
> .......................
> No, Marc.
>
> I believe that the true matter behind your point is that you would prefer
to
> obfuscate the issue(s), deriving some extremely peculiar form of personal
> satisfaction.
>
> Coal? It Kills.    Nuclear?  It Kills.   Oil?  It Kills.
>
> But you want to argue over which death has more meaning?
>
> Are you really that careless (read "lack of caring") and inconsiderate of
> other human life?.
>
> You admit that at least some deaths related to nuclear are inevitable, yet
> you qualify those deaths as "meaningless" and the NRC text that informs
the
> public of their inevitable existence as being nothing more than "scare
> tactics?"
>
> How many "survivable" childhood leukemias, "survivable" bone, breast and
> thyroid cancers are equally as "meaningless" to you?
>
> The really ugly fact about the NRC's nuclear "risk assessment," - quite
the
> misleading term in itself - is that these deaths are going to be ONLY the
> ones they can with some degree of certainty certify as nuclear power plant
> related.
>
> It doesn't address the "uncertifiable" and inevitable hundreds or perhaps
> thousands of instances of human suffering that will also occur - some may
be
> deaths, some may be "survivable" cancers and others may be "nothing" more
> obtrusive than chromosomal damage that may or may not surface at some
later
> date in any family's genetic "lottery."
>
> You may be familiar with the first few, as they are military "Bent Spears"
> and "Broken Arrows." I would presume that US Army Counter Intelligence
> informed you of these terms during your residence there.
> ................
>
> A PRIMER IN THE HISTORY OF NUCLEAR ACCIDENTS:
>
> "BROKEN ARROWS" - accidents which threaten nuclear devastation - 36 known
by
> 1991 - none of which were acknowledged willingly. Almost without question
> more have not surfaced.
>
> 1) July 27, 1956, RAF Lakenheath, Cambridgeshire. Great Britain. US B-47
> crashes upon landing. Three Mark-6 bombs come within a few degrees of
> detonation.
>
> 2) 1950, Fairfield-Suisum USAFB, California, USA. A US aircraft crashes.
> Nuclear bomb on board explodes during the fire, killing 19 men. Pentagon
> only admits the accident in 1981. Base renamed to Travis AFB, after
General
> Travis who died in explosion.
>
> 3) March 10, 1956. US B-47 fails to meet refueling tanker and crashes into
> the Mediterranean. Two capsules of nuclear material for bombs presumably
> lost.
>
> 4) 1957. A Mark-17 nuclear bomb accidentally dropped near Albuquerque, New
> Mexico, USA. Believed to be the same as the Mark-17 dropped on Bikini
Atoll,
> Marshal Islands, 1954, yielding 1,200 times that of the Hiroshima bomb.
> Fortunately, when the 20 ton explosive trigger detonated, the nuclear
device
> failed to ignite.
>
> 5) 1961, Goldsboro, North Carolina, USA. A 24 megaton bomb, approximately
> 1,900 times more powerful than the Hiroshima bomb, was accidentally
dropped
> over Goldsboro. Five of six safety devices were destroyed upon impact,
> leaving only one safety device between an "incident" and devastation
across
> half the Eastern Seaboard.
>
> 6) January 17, 1966, near Polomares, Spain. A US B-52 collides with a jet.
> The conventional explosive detonation devices scatter the plutonium of 2
of
> the 4 bombs over an enormous area.
>
> 7) January 21, 1968, near Thule, Greenland. Another B-52 collision results
> in the plutonium cores of all four bombs on board being scattered over a
> greater land mass than the Polomares, Spain accident. Effects of plutonium
> contamination are still being realized to date, despite "intensive
cleanup"
> and "removal of soil to the US," now considered to be largely fictitious
> measures.
>
> 8)  December, 1964, Ellsworth AFB, South Dakota, USA. A Minuteman nuclear
> missile sparks a tremendous explosion when a retrorocket accidentally
fires.
>
> 9) 1960, McGuire AFB, New Jersey, USA. A Bomarc missile explodes in its
> silo. Plutonium contamination is so severe that the entombment area is
> covered by 500,000 square feet of concrete. Depth of concrete
undetermined.
>
> 10) 1980. (Site unknown.) Titan nuclear missile launches itself after a
> workman drops a wrench down the silo. The wrench punctures a fuel tank,
> resulting in an explosion that sets the rocket in motion. Fortunately, the
> warhead did not explode when the rocket crashed one quarter of one mile
> distant.
>
> 11) April 10, 1963, off the Cape Cod Coast, Massachusetts, USA. The
nuclear
> submarine USS Thresher implodes and sinks in 8,500 feet of water. 129
lives
> lost.
>
> 12) May 27, 1968, 400 miles southwest of the Azore Islands. The nuclear
> submarine USS Scorpion sinks in 10,000 feet of water. Two ASTOR nuclear
> torpedoes lost. Ninety-nine crewmen dead.
> .................
>
> Throw in the rest of the 36 "Broken Arrows" that were known by 1991, add a
> few hundred known and unknown "Bent Spears," and you have absolute proof
of
> how little safety there is in the US military nuclear sector - which
happens
> to encompass an enormous amount of the private sector of the nuclear
> industry.
>
> Couple that with the abysmal track record of the French, English and
Russian
> militaries and we have even greater substantiation of how "safe" nuclear
> pursuits actually are.
> ..................
>
> ADD THE 66 ATMOSPHERIC, UNDERWATER AND SUBTERRANEAN NUCLEAR AND
> THERMONUCLEAR TESTS conducted between 1946 and 1958 on Bikini Atoll and
> Enewetak, in the southern Pacific - known as "Operation Crossroads."
>
> For decades, the inhabitants of Rongelap Atoll, "down wind" from Bikini
and
> Enewetak, suffered the effects of radiation poison - birth defects and
> cancers - literally begging the United States government to remove them
from
> their home. Only in 1985, after decades of requests and increasing media
> documentation and public awareness, were they removed.
>
> As for the Greenpeace Rainbow Warrior's fate? After assisting with the
> Rongelap relocation to Mejato, she and her crew sailed to Auckland Harbor,
> New Zealand, in preparation of leading an enormous flotilla of ships and
> boats prepared to occupy the waters within France's Pacific nuclear
testing
> site at Muroroa Island, as an act of protest.
>
> Greenpeace's southern Pacific anti-nuclear presence had been a thorn in
> France's side since 1972.
>
> On July 10, 1985, shortly before midnight and only a few days before the
> flotilla's departure, twenty kilos of underwater explosives were used to
> blow two enormous holes in the Rainbow Warrior's hull, while she was
docked
> with all crew members on board. One crewman died. It was later determined
in
> both courts of inquiry and law that the terrorist action was committed by
> commandos of the DSGE Action Service, France's secret service, and in all
> probability approved on a cabinet level.
>
> The convicted commandos were later released into French custody and served
> no time.
>
> On December 4, 1989, in international waters off the coast of Florida, the
> US Navy illegally and indefensibly attacked the M.V. Greenpeace with two
250
> foot vessels, repeatedly ramming it. Even after two large holes were
> punctured in the hull of the M.V. Greenpeace and a Mayday distress signal
> was radioed declaring the ship disabled, the navy vessels continued their
> attacks.
> ..................
> Two instances at minimum of "State Sponsored Terrorism" to protect nuclear
> energy policy.
> ..................
>
> COUPLE THESE TRAVESTIES WITH:
>
> 1, 2, 3, & 4) 1956; 1957; 1981; 1985, Sellafield, Great Britain - October
8,
> 1957. Inadequate temperature sensing arrays gives technicians cause to
> increase heat inputs, thinking the core is cooling down. At 11.05 AM the
> control rods are withdrawn for a routine start of the reactor's uranium
> "enhancement" chain reaction.
>
> Approximately 35,000 aluminum cans of uranium are present in channels of
the
> granite walls, with the sole intent and purpose of being partially
> "enriched" into plutonium for military purpose by the reactor.
>
> A canister of lithium and magnesium, also in the reactor to create tritium
> for a British H bomb, are believed to be the first to burst and ignite in
> the soaring temperatures. This coupled with igniting uranium and graphite
> sends temperatures soaring to 1,300 degrees centigrade.
>
> An estimated 20,000 curies of radioactive iodine escape along with other
> isotopes such as plutonium, cesium and highly toxic polonium.
>
> 5) 1961, Idaho Falls, USA - A military SL-1 reactor erupts. Radioactive
> steam kills three technicians.
>
> 6) 1968, Detroit, USA - A fast breeder reactor overheats. Part of the core
> melts down and gases escape before being brought under control.
>
> 7) 1972, New York, USA - An explosion in a plutonium works plant causes
> enough contamination that it is closed permanently
>
> 8) 1975 Brown's Ferry, USA - All five "failsafe" systems knocked out and
two
> twin reactors nearly destroyed.
>
> 9) 1979 Three Mile Island - Operator error and faulty gauge valve causes
> near melt-down and an inordinate amount of gas and debris to escape.
Reactor
> destroyed and later entombed.
>
> 10) 1986, Gore, Oklahoma, USA - A radioactive gas leak and explosion in
the
> Kerr McGee uranium plant. One dead. 100 hospitalized.
>
> 11) April 26, 1986, Ukraine, USSR - The #4 reactor at Chernobyl burns out.
A
> test is initiated to determine how long generators could produce
electricity
> on momentum alone. Automatic cooling system disconnected to prevent
> automatic shutdown when the reactor is reduced to 7% power. The automatic
> "turbine speed reduction" safety also disconnected. At 1:23 AM, with the
> flip of a switch, Chernobyl melts down.
>
> The 1,000 ton, two feet thick steel reactor lid blows off and the ten feet
> thick concrete containment was are blown apart. Plant is destroyed in 4
> seconds.
>
> CHERNOBYL REPERCUSSIONS?
>
> Chernobyl burned for 12 days, emitting the equivalent of 1,000 Hiroshima
> bombs, initially killing 31 people and effecting the evacuation of 135,000
> people over a 300 mile square area.
>
> Estimated cancer induced deaths were between 5,000 and 25,000 in the
Ukraine
> alone. Worldwide estimates of cancer related death due to fall out are
> 39,000. Both estimates considered highly conservative.
>
> Presently, over 4,000,000 residents continue to live in severely
> contaminated areas.
>
> Scotland estimates its children received 45 times the amount of radiation
> from a single x-ray. Estimates based upon thyroid studies.
>
> France's agriculture is severely contaminated, yet the government refuses
to
> inform farmers what the levels are.
>
> United Kingdom's Environment Ministry re-establishes a "safe" level of
> radioactivity in milk to 3-4 times greater than in the US or West Germany.
> When these levels were acceded, they are re-labeled as "advisory."
>
> OTHER?
>
> I believe we can temporarily hold off on all the data from the Nevada, USA
> testing program, both above and below ground. Human experimentation was
> conducted en masse both here and Bikini / Enewetak - primarily Army
> personnel in Nevada and Navy personnel in the southern Pacific.
>
> We can temporarily hold off on the thousands of low level radiation leaks
> and releases throughout the industry that continue on a regular basis to
> this date.
>
> We can hold off on the history of record for each nuclear facility ever
> operated in the US, military, private, enrichment, or public power
> generating - data warehoused by the NRC.
>
> We can diminish incidents such as cracks in Turkey Point's reactor cores
> (Miami, Florida, USA) or near loss of coolant resulting from Hurricane
> Andrew.
> ..............
>
> Todd Swearingen
> Appal Energy
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ...................
>
> POST SCRIPT: To Master Piolenc,
>
> After all this, is there anything else you would care to omit or
obfuscate?
>
> It would be a great service to yourself and the list were you to refrain
> from trying to pass these or other disasters off as "Well...if they hadn't
> put that building in front of the plane," or "It was the valve
> manufacturer's fault, not the industry's," or "See - one out of six safety
> devices did work."
>
> Such attempt(s) would prove truly to be "counter-intelligent."
>
>
>
>
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