Steve wind generators and or solar cells are sufficient to free the hydrogen in even the most brackish water (ocean water). If you wish to get some idea of how much hydrogen you can generate try using any solar cell with two test tubes inverted over electrodes one tube will have very pure oxygen (not explosive) in it the other is hydrogen (very explosive handle with care). Set a line on your water container i.e. rubber band where you start set the container where the water won't evaporate readily then hook up your cell and set the cell in intense sun light. By watching the water level in the container you can determine how fast you are making hydrogen. As I recall an old 7th grade science lab used a 1 1/2 volt cell and there was enough hydrogen in 45 min to generate a loud pop and very visible flash when we held a wooden match to the end of the test tube. DC voltages are easier to generate than AC especially using solar cells just plain day light will do it just take longer. If you need a formula then start with lumens per sq. ft on the surface of the cell. The best system would employ a parabolic reflector to increase the lumens per foot on the cell.
Steve be aware (other than nuclear power) there is more energy per pound in hydrogen that any other element so it doesn't take much to do a lot of work. Fred ========Original Message======== Subj: Re: [biofuel] Hydrogen Question Date: 9/14/2001 8:49:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-to: biofuel@yahoogroups.com To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com the electrolysis of water using solar cells should get you started just be extreamly careful ========Original Message======== Subj: [biofuel] Hydrogen Question Date: 9/14/2001 5:24:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve W) Reply-to: biofuel@yahoogroups.com To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Hello, I am aware that hydrogen combines with oxygen to make water and give off some electricity but where does all this hydrogen come from that we plan to use? I know there is alot out there but it is mostly bound up in water or some other chemical isn't it? It takes energy to free this hydrogen. 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