Hello Mr Miller

I think you're confusing my response and Marc de Piolenc's, please 
have another look at the original messages. The first message, from 
"wolfie1166" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, was this:

>I have a project that I think will work but I'm having trouble
>getting started, specifically I can't find a good source of funding.
>The project involves introducing Biodiesel to a country in the
>developing world that curently grows alot of oil seed crops. We would
>import biodiesel converters to the country and work with farmers
>cooperatives to teach them how to run the equipment and market the
>products (Biod., glycerine, and animal feed). Does anyone know of an
>organization that would fund this type of project?

This concerns small-scale localised projects, and that was what my 
comments were about:

> > Whole world (literally) of extension to be done in the rural
> > development sector, Marc, technology and marketing aside, not just a
> > business proposition. Plenty of room, plenty of need.

There's no problem with the technology, and no need for tens of 
millions in investment and ironclad guarantees to start such 
projects. There are already quite a few of them in operation in 
various Third World countries, and industrialised countries too.

>The problem is the technology.  Current conversion  processing produces
>biodiesel which must sell for three or so times the cost of  regular diesel.
>Marketing is not the problem, cost is.

Biodiesel sells at the same price or cheaper than dinodiesel in 
several European countries, in large quantities.

>Let me know by return email the extent of your interest and nature of your
>business or profession.  Let's keep in touch.

Please see our website.

Best wishes

Keith Addison
Journey to Forever
Handmade Projects
Tokyo
http://journeytoforever.org/

 
>Dear Mr. Addison:
>
>The problem is the technology.  Current conversion  processing produces
>biodiesel which must sell for three or so times the cost of  regular diesel.
>Marketing is not the problem, cost is.
>
>If anyone is interested in opening the market for biodiesel plants in Asia,
>let know.  There may be a solution coming down the pike, but it is a ways
>off.  If it pans out, then biodiesel could be competitive with regular
>diesel.  If funding is available for coconut oil or palm oil conversion to
>biodiesel, then let me know asap as it will take some time and effort to
>coax the technology out of the labratory and into a production plant.  The
>conversion plant could easily cost upwards of ten million and would require
>a very stable, very legal source of veggie oil.  No investor is going to
>invest any money in an unstable country.  If the country does not have
>crushing and extraction plants, then one would need investment capital for
>that plant as well.
>
>If the technology pans out, the biodiesel will be very competitive with
>petrodiesel, at least in the North American market.  Developing the
>conversion plant in a foreign country will take ironclad agreements with all
>levels of govenment, including insurance against government failure to
>cooperate and/or exappropriation. These assurances would have to be backed
>up by secured collateral in the United States or a guarantee by the U.S.
>Department of Commerce to the same effect.
>
>Let me know by return email the extent of your interest and nature of your
>business or profession.  Let's keep in touch.
>
>Regards,
>
>James E. Miller
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 4:30 AM
>Subject: Re: [biofuel] BioD in the developine world
>
>
> > >"wolfie1166" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >"I have a project that I think will work but I'm having trouble
> > >getting started, specifically I can't find a good source of funding.
> > >The project involves introducing Biodiesel to a country in the
> > >developing world that curently grows alot of oil seed crops. We would
> > >import biodiesel converters to the country and work with farmers
> > >cooperatives to teach them how to run the equipment and market the
> > >products (Biod., glycerine, and animal feed). Does anyone know of an
> > >organization that would fund this type of project?"
> > >
> > >Funding from several sources is available here for coconut-based
> > >industries. What specifically do you have to offer that is not already
> > >being implemented here? It can't be the technology (which was developed
> > >here in the early 90's) so I assume it's the marketing package?
> >
> > Whole world (literally) of extension to be done in the rural
> > development sector, Marc, technology and marketing aside, not just a
> > business proposition. Plenty of room, plenty of need.
> >
> > Keith Addison
> > Journey to Forever
> > Handmade Projects
> > Tokyo
> > http://journeytoforever.org/
> >
> >
> >
> > >Marc de Piolenc
> > >Iligan, Philippines


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