as an avid bike rider , i feel that the best way to 
power a bike is by burning human fat. no filtering,
no methanol recycling,no settling of glycerin and no
waste water disposal. biofuel should (IMHO) be used
to save our environment while at the same time 
maintaining and improving the lifestyle we have come to 
enjoy. i have taken many a fall on my mountain bike and
would hate to have the weight of steam engine and steam
at 300F and 150psi. on top of me. but to each his own.
       kindest regards , roger kurz
> What about steam radiators? Safety is determined by proper design, I mean.
> 
> A tank of gasoline  relatively close to one's body, at 60 or more mph, in a
> sheet metal tank is not all that safe either...so I'm not sure that that
> would be insurmountable even though I certainly share your concern.
> 
> I thought the whole idea a little silly and unsafe too, at first, but then I
> considered all the logical and intelligent things this fellow had done, and
> his skill, and thought...well...mebbe....if it's done right, like anything
> else.
> 
> 
> Edward Beggs
> www.biofuels.ca
> 
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 01:40:54 +0000
> > To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [biofuel] Steam powered bike
> > 
> > having a source of high temperature and high pressure
> > steam close to one's body would not be safe. steam
> > engines also pale when compared to diesel efficiency.
> > IMHO. 
> > best regards, roger kurz
> >> A local guy  genius inventor type made up a steam powered bike a number of
> >> years ago. I wonder how it would run on SVO, or biodiesel in the burner? I
> >> am not sure what he used for fuel.
> >> 
> >> Is it possible to marry SVO or biodiesel to a small and efficient steam
> >> engine? Is that more desirable than using a small diesel? (Quieter,
> >> certainly!)
> >> 
> >> How would it be as about compared to a human/electric bike? ("ebike") Or
> >> should the ebike be charged by the small diesel genset?
> >> Thoughts, anyone?
> >> 
> >> Edward Beggs
> >> www.biofuels.ca
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> From: MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
> >>> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 10:33:32 -0600
> >>> To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [biofuel] Average BTU consumed Per Passenger mile by mode of
> >>> travel
> >>> 
> >>>> I remember reading somewhere that a person on a bicycle on level ground
> >>>> with no wind pedaling @15 MPH gets the equivalent of something like
> >>>> three thousand "miles per gallon"
> >>> 
> >>> Per gallon of what?
> >>> ÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷
> >>> "It takes less energy to bicycle one mile than it takes to walk a mile. In
> >>> fact, a bicycle can be up to 5
> >>> times more efficient than walking. If we compare the amount of calories
> >>> burned
> >>> in bicycling to the number of
> >>> calories an automobile burns, the difference is astounding. One hundred
> >>> calories can power a cyclist for three
> >>> miles, but it would only power a car 280 feet (85 meters)!"
> >>> (with a .gif image showing)
> >>> "A comparison of the energy cost of various forms of transportation
> >>> shows that the bicycle is most energy-efficient." (kcal/km per person)
> >>> (copied from: http://www.exploratorium.edu/cycling/humanpower1.html)
> >>> 
> >>> "A bicycle is also the world's most energy efficient mode of travel, using
> >>> just 35 calories per passenger mile
> >>> versus 1860 for an average automobile with one occupant."
> >>> (copied from: 
> >>> http://www.bicyclinglife.com/NewsAndViews/5_Different_Reasons.htm)
> >>> 
> >>> 1 Btu = 252 calories = 0.252 kcal = .293 watts = 0.000295 kWh = .000393 
> >>> HPh
> >>> =
> >>> 1.055 kJ 
> >>> "Conversion Calculator for Units of ENERGY"
> >>> http://www.ex.ac.uk/cimt/dictunit/ccenrgy.htm
> >>> 
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