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comments like "This discussion is now closed. This is a list owner's ruling. Please take heed..." are not wise! you sound like the government that governs you! I did not see a response that contributed to the actual BD concerns posed. You really can't expect that EVERYONE has the time to go through the non-sense posts that arise from shit like this to get usable information based on experience. to be real honest, numerous posts are political in nature and thus inherently require a POLITICAL opinionated response. PLEASE...keep it technical! NOT PERSONAL. that's how we see it. jack ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/