Yup. Or GMO...Genetically Modified Organism
----- Original Message ----- From: steve spence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 9:33 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] RE: The Dangers of Nanotech & GE's > genetic engineering? > > Steve Spence > Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/webconx > > Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ > Human powered devices, equipment, and transport - > http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/2000/humanpower.htm > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "coachgeo3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 9:16 PM > Subject: [biofuel] RE: The Dangers of Nanotech & GE's > > > > At the risk of sounding like a fool.. ahhh what is GE? > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Well....maybe it holds some promise. But I would hope that all > > > persons refrain from such over inflationary words as > > > "tremendous," especially when the entire field is a complete > > > unknown, including all or any of the consequences of its > > > application. > > > > > > But you're right. A bit like GE. It may hold some promise. Yet > > > the detracting factors of GE are only being clued in on now in > > > the public sector, with the complete consequences indeterminate > > > and in many respects still far off in the future. (Some great > > > degree of debate as to whether or not the consequences now > > > emerging were not perceived well in advance by the manipulators > > > of GE.) > > > > > > Nothing at all wrong with being concerned with corporately > > > managed superhighways into the unknown. > > > > > > And fine animals those Luddites... :-) > > > > > > Todd Swearingen > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 12:53 PM > > > Subject: [biofuel] Fwd: ETC: The Dangers of Nanotech Particles > > > > > > > > > > Now I'll be dubbed "anti-nanotech" by some, and probably > > > > anti-"progress" too, a Luddite. I'm none of those things. I > > > don't > > > > think the ETC Group is against nanotech either. I'm also not > > > anti > > > > genetic engineering. But the likes of Monsanto + GMOs = > > > criminal > > > > irresponsibility. That's my concern with nanotech too. Like GE, > > > it > > > > holds tremendous promise, but not in the hands of these people. > > > > > > > > Keith > > > > > > > > > > > > >Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 10:56:51 -0500 > > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >Subject: ETC: The Dangers of Nanotech Particles > > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > >The ETC Group announces the release of a new, 8-page > > > Communique > > > > >entitled, "No Small Matter: Nanotech Particles Penetrate > > > Living > > > > >Cells and Accumulate in Animal Organs." > > > > > > > > > >Discussions of the potential dangers of nanotechnology (that > > > is, > > > > >manipulating matter on the scale of the nanometer, one > > > billionth of > > > > >a meter) have been carried out in the realm of theory or in > > > the > > > > >safe, fictional realm of Hollywood movies: will scientists > > > someday > > > > >be able to create self-assembling nanobots programmed to > > > produce > > > > >commercial goods and food and new forms of life? What might > > > happen > > > > >if they do? There has been virtually no discussion, however, > > > of the > > > > >potential danger of today's applied nanotechnology (that is, > > > > >manipulating matter on the scale of the nanometer to produce > > > useful > > > > >materials)--until now. Researchers have just begun to ask the > > > most > > > > >basic questions about the impact of new nano-materials on > > > human > > > > >health and the environment. Evidence of nanoparticle > > > contamination > > > > >in living organisms and unanswered questions about potential > > > dangers > > > > >of new forms of carbon require urgent societal review. > > > > > > > > > >The full text of "No Small Matter" is available on the ETC > > > website: > > > > >http://www.etcgroup.org > > > > > > > > > >Summary: > > > > > > > > > >Issue: At a mid-March fact-finding meeting at the US > > > > >EnvironmentalProtection Agency (EPA), researchers reported > > > that > > > > >nanoparticles are showing up in the livers of research > > > animals, can > > > > >seep into living cells, and perhaps piggyback on bacteria to > > > enter > > > > >the food chain. The commercial use of nanoscale carbon was > > > likened > > > > >to either "the next best thing to sliced bread or the next > > > > >asbestos." Despite these revelations, there is no regulatory > > > body > > > > >(and no plans for one) > > > > >dedicated to overseeing this potent and powerfully invasive > > > new technology. > > > > > > > > > >Context: Touted as the greenest and greatest techno-fix ever, > > > > >proponents claim that these atomic-scale manipulations will > > > solve our > > > > >environmental woes and guarantee - not only sustainable, but > > > > >perpetual - development. Nanotechnology is the manipulation > > > of > > > > >matter, working with elements in the Periodic Table (atoms and > > > atom > > > > >clusters [molecules] in the range of a nanometer [nm], one > > > billionth > > > > >of a meter). At the nanoscale, atoms function in the fabled > > > realm > > > > >of quantum physics, where ordinary elements can exhibit > > > extraordinary > > > > >strength, temperature tolerance, colors, chemical reactivity, > > > and > > > > >electrical conductivity - characteristics inconceivable at > > > micro or > > > > >macro scales. Companies are already cranking out tons of > > > commercial > > > > >nanomaterials for use as catalysts, in cosmetics, paints, > > > coatings, > > > > >fabrics, and to provide added strength. Some of the materials > > > are > > > > >familiar compounds that have never before been marketed on the > > > > >nanoscale; other materials are atomically-modified elements > > > that do > > > > >not exist in nature. Some new forms of carbon (a component of > > > all > > > > >living things) - called nanotubes and fullerenes - are being > > > > >manufactured for the first time and their impact on the > > > environment > > > > >is unknown. > > > > > > > > > >Implications: Nanotechnology - including nanobiotechnology - > > > has > > > > >been pegged by industry and governments to become the world's > > > largest > > > > >and fastest industrial revolution - dwarfing history's past > > > > >technological upheavals. More than 450 dedicated nanotech > > > > >enterprises are already in the marketplace manufacturing a > > > host of > > > > >"old-nano" products (e.g., particles used in cosmetics and > > > sprays) > > > > >and "new-nano" products (e.g., chips, sensors and new forms of > > > > >carbon). Global R & D spending is at US$4 billion. The US > > > National > > > > >Science Foundation predicts that within ten years the entire > > > > >semiconductor industry and half of the pharmaceutical industry > > > will > > > > >rely on nanotechnology and that, by 2015, the global market > > > will be > > > > >US$1 trillion. Industry will fight hard to make sure that > > > health > > > > >and environmental concerns do not derail the progress of > > > nanotech, > > > > >as has happened with biotech. > > > > > > > > > >Policy: Because nanotech generally works with the elemental > > > > >building blocks of life - rather than with life directly - it > > > has > > > > >largely evaded social, political and regulatory scrutiny. The > > > US > > > > >Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has thus far established no > > > > >policies or protocols for considering the safety of > > > nano-particles > > > > >in products already on the market. Given the concerns raised > > > over > > > > >nanoparticle contamination in living organisms, Heads of State > > > > >attending the World Summit on Sustainable Development in > > > > >Johannesburg (Aug. 26-Sept. 4, 2002) should declare an > > > immediate > > > > >moratorium on commercial production of new nanomaterials and > > > launch > > > > >a transparent global process for evaluating the > > > socio-economic, > > > > >health and environmental implications of the technology. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > > > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > > > > > > > Biofuels list archives: > > > > http://archive.nnytech.net/ > > > > > > > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > > > > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! 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