--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> > 
> I've written a lot here and at the Biofuel list and elsewhere about 
> on-farm energy and biofuels production. Odd... Ed Beggs (if you 
don't 
> mind Ed) and I have just been wondering off-list about this matter 
of 
> farmers. Ed said: "...why so few farmers? You'd think they'd be all 
> over the list....maybe they just lurk a bit and then quietly go 
build 
> stuff we have not even thought of yet, for about $10, plus some 
> broken cultivator bits, eh?"

My perception is that the farmers are waiting for Big Business to 
take the leadership role, get government involved to provide 
subsidies and a guaranteed profit, then they'll go for it.
> 
> Maybe - hopefully... But I've encountered very few here, and in the 
> biodiesel world generally, and the few I have encountered haven't 
> been doing it very well. Often not that much better than the 
Illinois 
> soy and wheat farmers crying over the lost subsidies for their wind 
> farm, with apparently never a thought for biodiesel or ethanol 
power, 
> or all the US chicken farmers (factory farmers) and their wails of 
> anguish over heating bills every winter, despite all that eminently 
> biogasable chicken litter they seem to have so much trouble 
disposing 
> of (though of course a lot of chicken shit gets fed to cattle).

They've been brainwashed and trained for so many years to depend on 
governemnt to guarantee them a positive income, that it seems to be 
inconceivable for them to make any investment on their own. Even 
their Cooperative ventures are all governmentally underwritten.
> 
> Ho hum.
> 
> Best
> 
> Keith
> 
Me too,
Motie


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