Hi John >>>>>I have been mostly deleting all the political discussion recently... In >>>>>addition to it making me ill, I just don't have anything to say. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>Why not? >>>> >>>> >>>A number of reasons. I have been inundated with it, and none of it will >>>change my mind and I doubt I'll change anyone elses. >>> >>> >>People's minds, behaviour and actions are very often changed >>through discussion with other people. That has happened here quite >>a lot. >> >"In science it often happens that scientists say, "You know that's a >really good argument; my position is mistaken," and then they would >actually change their minds and you never hear that old view from >them again. They really do it. It doesn't happen as often as it >should, because scientists are human and change is sometimes >painful. But it happens every day. I cannot recall the last time >someting like that happened in politics or religion." -- Carl >Sagan, 1987 CSICOP keynote address > >Cheers > >John
It happens all the time in society though, even when people are talking about politics, and yes, even religion. About science, there's also this, according to Max Planck: "A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die." I do love hearing them say: "Of course we know now..." with such assurance, blithely unaware that someone else'll probably be saying that about them before very long. How about this for true science? >Professor Stott told BBC News Online: "The problem with a chaotic >coupled non-linear system as complex as climate is that you can no >more predict successfully the outcome of doing something as of not >doing something. Kyoto will not halt climate change. Full stop." - >BBC News, 25 February, 2002 - Sceptics denounce climate science 'lie' LOL! He just couldn't see it. Anyway, on doing nothing: > One of the most powerful aspects of delusion, or ignorance, is the >belief that what we do does not really matter -- Sharon Salzberg > Never underestimate the power of a small group of individuals to >change the world. In fact, it is the only thing that ever has. -- >Margaret Mead Best wishes Keith It becomes no longer a matter of choice, but the moral obligation and bounden duty of every responsible writer to bear witness to the times he lives in and to put his life and his work at the service of humanity. - Cecil Rajendra ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Your own Online Store Selling our Overstock. http://us.click.yahoo.com/rZll0B/4ftFAA/46VHAA/FGYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/