Greg H.,
If you see any parallels with Northern Ireland, you have managed with something that I never heard someone do before. Please read and learn more about both situations and then try to think again. Or do you really think that they have refugee camps in Northern Ireland and that any side have expropriated the other ones property and refuse to hand it back and instead force you to spend your life in a refugee camp. Do not try to bring this up again with me, without better knowledge of what we are talking about. Maybe you should visit Israel, Palestine, Ireland and Northern Ireland also, it helps to have met the people that you have so strong opinions about and see for yourself how they live. You will discover that they are people with dreams and other ambitions in life, similar to ours. Hakan At 03:00 PM 3/20/2003 -0700, you wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Hakan Falk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 13:49 >Subject: Re: [biofuel] PENTAGON THREATENS TO KILL INDEPENDANT REPORTERS >INIRAQ-innocent lives will be lost! > > > > > One day when you feel for it, please try to imagine the situation of > > a Palestinian, who under duress of war fled from his home in Israel. > > When the war was over and Israel occupied the territory where your > > refugee camp was located, you were denied the right to return back > > home by force. Continue then to think of all other human right you > > and your family have been denied for more than 35 years and that > > you have seen your children and grand children growing up in a > > ghetto, without availability to education or a future. You have seen > > your children and grand children develop hate and disparity, as more > > natural feelings than love and compassion. You have been suppressed > > and denied normal human rights for 35 years and your children and > > grand children does not know what freedom is. You have seen your > > family and friends die as "collateral damage", when throwing stones at > > the soldiers who occupies your refugee camp. > > > > Until you try to go through this thought process, I will close this > > discussion as meaningless. I do not have to ask you to put yourself > > in the situation of an Israeli, who lives at a constant fear that what he > > was party of creating, will come back and hunt him. > > > >I have tried, to think it through. I keep coming back to the fact if the >other side offers peace, and someone on my side screws it up in the name of >doing it for me, and causes more problems for me, who should I blame, the >other side or my side? Should I bide my time, not make things worse and try >to make things better slowly, or should I try go out and kill someone that >had nothing to do with why I am in the position I am. > > > > It is a very serious and difficult situation and have to be approached > > accordingly, with respect and understanding for both parties. > > > >Your right, I see parallels in the UK and the IRA, but, it looks like they >are well on the way to peace, because, both sides got their act together, >not just one, but, in Israel, from every thing I have seen, it seems that >one side has tried more than the other side, in fact one of them does not >want the other to survive at all let alone in peace. I have a very, very >hard time getting past that, and if you can help all the better. It's one >thing to live in peace, but, another to live in a situation were you have to >repress a people in just order to survive. What is better, repress someone >or your own death as a people? Both are bad. > >I doubt that I have to tell you how happy I was when I heard that the >Palestinians were finally talking to the Israelis, and peace was announced, >and how disappointed I was to hear that a suicide bomber blew that peace >agrement to hell ( pun intended ). > > >Greg H. > > > > >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > >Biofuels list archives: >http://archive.nnytech.net/ > >Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. >To unsubscribe, send an email to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Make Money Online Auctions! Make $500.00 or We Will Give You Thirty Dollars for Trying! http://us.click.yahoo.com/yMx78A/fNtFAA/46VHAA/FGYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
