No, the homepower guys use approved grid tie equipment, anything else puts linemen at risk. They don't always inform the utility, but they use safe equipment.
Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter & Discussion Boards. Read about Sustainable Technology: http://www.green-trust.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- From: "eric12856" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 10:22 AM Subject: [biofuel] Re: Electric generators > Yes it is not legal, but the solar guys in Home Power magazine have > nothing but grief from the utilities... too many barriers to net- > metering even though they are required to let you inter-tie by law. > So they do whats called "Guerrilla Solar" and inter-tie anyway. > > So was was thinking of going "Guerrilla Biodiesel" cause I don't want > to invest in an inverter$$$ and batteries$$$. I figure an induction > motor inter-tie with some anti "islanding" circuit would be safe. > > Sounds like there a number of people doing it with hydro. But I can't > seem to find an anti "islanding" circuit. > > My plan is to only run the generator when I'm home and only for a > couple of hours on weekends to heat the house in winter, heat the > pools in summer and offset both gas and electric. > > BTW, I live in north Jersey and my utility bill this winter was > staggering! > > Eric Olsen > > > --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Spence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is not legal in the USA. You must use approved grid tie > equipment. > > > > > > Steve Spence > > Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter > > & Discussion Boards. Read about Sustainable Technology: > > http://www.green-trust.org > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ken Basterfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 1:34 PM > > Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Electric generators > > > > > > > Martin the is nothing technical to stop you using your alternator > as it is > > > to feed back into the main supply. All you need to do is > synchronise the > > > alternator output with the mains and then close the switch to > couple the > > > two. You will have to common the neutrals. A lamp connected > between > > mains > > > phase and alternator phase is all that is required. As the engine > speed is > > > slowly increased, the the lamp will begin to beat slowly on and > off as > > the > > > alternator phase signal slowly slips past the mains phase. When > the lamp > > > goes out the two signals are in phase and can be connected > together. I.e. > > > you close the switch. henceforth the alternator will be > sychronised to the > > > mains and if you increase the Diesel engine throttle, power will > be fed to > > > the mains supply. The lamp will have to be double voltage to > avoid blowing > > > it. A 240 volt lamp when connecting 110 systems or two 240 lamps > in series > > > if running off 240 volt systems. > > > > > > Don't throw out the alternator just to fit an induction motor > unless your > > > alternator has specific instructions from the manufactor saying > that you > > are > > > not allowed to connect it to the mains. > > > > > > This same system of synchronising using beating lamps can be > applied to 3 > > > phase alternators, just connect 3 lamps between each of the > respective 3 > > > phases----- Original Message ----- > > > Ken > > > > > > From: "martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> > > > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 4:10 AM > > > Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Electric generators > > > > > > > > > > Your induction generator will continue to function if it isn't > > > > overloaded. If the power goes out, the induction generator will > either > > > > become overloaded and stop generating, or continue to run while > > > > back-feeding the power lines. As soon as you notice that the > power is > > > > out you should throw your main breaker or shut off the > generator. If you > > > > intend to spin your meter backwards anyway, I'm really not sure > if one > > > > of the automatic switches would work for you. > > > > > > > > eric12856 wrote: > > > > > > > > >Lot of smart guys in this group so I figure someone can answer > my > > > > >question that I think may have a simple answer, but first > > > > >some background. > > > > > > > > > >I have a 5hp Biodiesel generator set that I also extract heat > (from > > > > >coolant and exhaust to heat the house). Now that I've moved > into a > > > > >new house (my heating and electric was $450/month!!)I was > thinking of > > > > >swapping out the generator head for an induction motor so that > I can > > > > >intertie with the utility and use the utility as a battery and > > > > >supplemental power. > > > > > > > > > >I know that if the utility goes out that It will produce no > > > > >electricity since the motor needs the field windings excited to > > > > >produce. Thats ok, the generator head will be moved to small > gas > > > > >engine as backup. > > > > > > > > > >My question: > > > > >For safety reasons, I would like to stop the Diesel engine > when the > > > > >utility goes off. Anyone know how I can accomplish the > shutdown or > > > > >where I can find a schematic so I can build my own? The engine > has a > > > > >built-in 12 volt shutdown solenoid. Would a simple relay off > the main > > > > >breaker suffice? > > > > > > > > > >Thanks! > > > > >Eric Olsen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > --- > > > > Martin Klingensmith > > > > http://nnytech.net/ > > > > http://infoarchive.net/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > > > > > > > Biofuels list archives: > > > > http://archive.nnytech.net/ > > > > > > > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > > > > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! 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