Solar thermal - yes great for heating water, but not for making electricity. Solar thermal, wind, SVO genset. Good setup for many areas.
I agree with you about Stirling and centralized power. Neither are very good ideas. Edward Beggs http://www.biofuels.ca On Wednesday, April 2, 2003, at 10:36 AM, kirk wrote: > Solar thermal. Works great. Looks like it is inexpensive too if > thought out > and done as a system. > Everyone wants centralized power -- at least they are taught that is > what > they want. > I believe nothing could be further from the truth. > > For individual power forget Stirling -- regenerator needs to be long > and > thin and short and fat. Can't solve that problem. > It is inherent to the concept. > > Anyone have some idea re a cheap phase change storage around 250F > besides > paraffin wax? > > Kirk > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Neoteric Biofuels Inc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 9:32 AM > To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [biofuel] Fwd: PACIFIC: Water and Power from the Ocean > > > Sounds like fuel cells! > > > I guess what I am thinking is that all the Island nations that are > getting all excited about this should stick to wind and SVO gensets and > hybrids of the two. PV panels, fuel cells, OTEC, etc...not of true > benefit at this time. > > Regards, > > Ed > > On Tuesday, April 1, 2003, at 12:49 PM, kirk wrote: > >> Don't get your hopes up. >> TRW had an OTEC demo in Hawaii 25 -- 30 years ago. >> The originator was a Frenchman I do believe. >> Turn of century stuff. >> >> Kirk >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Neoteric Biofuels Inc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:25 AM >> To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com >> Subject: [biofuel] Fwd: PACIFIC: Water and Power from the Ocean >> >> >> >>> >>> >>> Water and Power from the Ocean >>> >>> >>> >>> Fossil fuel usage in electrical services in the Pacific Region may be >>> a thing of the past if plans to use the power of the Pacific Ocean to >>> transform sea water into electric energy as well as fresh water. >>> >>> >>> >>> This idea was included in topics discussed during the third world >>> water forum which was held in Japan last month. >>> >>> >>> >>> The method is called Ocean Thermal Energy Conversion or OTECH and it >>> has been developed by a Japanese university. >>> >>> >>> >>> The cold, deep seawater used in the OTEC process is also rich in >>> nutrients, and it can also be used to grow both marine organisms and >>> plant life near the shore or on land. >>> >>> >>> >>> To listen: >>> >>> http://www.abc.net.au/ra/pacbeat/focus/m572871.asx >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Presenter/Interviewer: Caroline Tiriman >>> >>> 1/4/2003 >>> >>> >>> >>> SOURCE: Pacific Beat, Radio Australia >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> **************************************************************** >>> List Name: SIDSnet energy-newswire >>> Posting address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> To unsubscribe, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: >>> unsubscribe energy-newswire >>> To subscribe, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: >>> subscribe energy-newswire >>> No subjects required for either cases. >>> >>> Brought to you by >>> the Small Island Developing States Network: http://www.sidsnet.org >>> >> >> >> >> >> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >> >> Biofuels list archives: >> http://archive.nnytech.net/ >> >> Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. >> To unsubscribe, send an email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Your use of Yahoo! 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