Your struggle with denying the concept there may be something more than
oxidation and kinetic energy occuring is something to behold.

When penetrating iron oxidation occurs later because even if the atmosphere
was 100% oxygen, which it isn't, how much O2 can you get there in under a
millisecond? Thats all the time there is, penetration is a done deal by
then. Note -- the more iron there is the more uranium oxide there is. Could
it be? Is it possible -- that residual heat promotes the oxidation. Does it
seem reasonable that the energy is just kinetic? Have you penciled it? Do
you know how to pencil it? What is the specific heat of iron, of uranium --
how much mass is involved? What is the velocity?

When you say it does not stand up you better be ready to show us the
numbers. I spent my working life in aerospace. I happen to have a great deal
of actual experience with what you call theory.
Now you want to teach me freshman chemistry?

>because "after" there is no energy to cause any "side reaction".

Ok, just how much energy is left in less than 1/1000 of a second of cooling?
And just how much oxygen did you get to the uranium in less than 1/1000 of a
second? Enough to melt armor? Sure Sparky. I believe that. You couldn't get
that much oxygen to the site of the reaction even if it were a liquid.


>Experts say:

The real trick is knowing who knows what they are talking about. Anyone can
put up a webpage.
When all else fails try logic.

Kirk







-----Original Message-----
From: bratt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 5:11 PM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Dirty Bombing


I read the whole theory, and it does not stand up, because "after" there is
no energy to cause any "side reaction".  DU is pyrophoric, and ignites in
whole or in part upon impact.  The powder left is uranium oxide.  An oxide
is a binary compound of oxygen.

 Experts say:
http://www.chugoku-np.co.jp/abom/uran/special/index2.html
DU is approximately 2.5 times denser than iron and 1.7 times denser than
lead. This high specific gravity means that, as a projectile fired from a
tank or aircraft, it carries enough kinetic energy to blast through the
tough armor of a tank. Furthermore, the impact of this penetration generates
extreme heat. DU is pyrophoric, meaning that it burns on impact and can set
the target on fire

http://mapage.noos.fr/radiation/DU/InfoDU.html

(Depleted) Uranium is used in munition because of its extremely high density
and therefore its penetrating power. It is used in metallic form. On impact
the kinetic energy is partially transformed into thermal energy, which
causes the uranium - which is anyway pyrophoric, which means that it easily
reacts with the oxygen from air - to ignite. Uranium is therefore
(partially) oxidized to uranium oxide, which deposits as an extremely fine
powder. Uranium oxide(s) are not soluble in water. When such small particles
are inhaled after resuspension, they can deposit in the lung. The lung
fluids may dissolve extremely slowly the uranium oxide particles and uranium
is carried away in the body fluids. Part of it will be excreted, part of it
will be deposited in different organs of the body, the critical organ being
the kidney, as it is for other heavy metals. The health impact of uranium in
this case will be only related to its chemical toxicity which is by far
higher than the radiotoxicity. In case that such particles would be ingested
and not inhaled, the particles will pass the body without being dissolved
and without having any impact on health.

EdB


----- Original Message -----
From: "kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 1:58 PM
Subject: RE: [biofuel] Dirty Bombing


> >That is a side reaction and
> > later.
>
> Pays to read the whole email.
>
> Kirk
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bratt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 11:18 AM
> To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [biofuel] Dirty Bombing
>
>
> So then, if the exotheric reaction doesn't involve oxygen,  there must be
> some strange mysterious process by which uranium oxide powder appears on
the
> scene.
>
> Back to Bombs:
> DEPLETED URANIUM IN BUNKER BOMBS
>
> America's big dirty secret
>
> Le Monde diplomatique, March 2002
>
>
> The United States loudly and proudly boasted this month of its new bomb
> currently being used against al-Qaida hold-outs in Afghanistan; it sucks
the
> air from underground installations, suffocating those within. The US has
> also admitted that it has used depleted uranium weaponry over the last
> decade against bunkers in Iraq, Kosovo, and now Afghanistan.
>
> by RO
>
>
>
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> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html
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