Derek,
Very balanced and fine comment, but wrong on one point. Sweden today is as much a melting pot as US. This because of a very liberal immigration politic during the last 60 years, starting with refugees from WWII. Much is done to integrate immigrants and a lot quite successful. This with a high respect for the immigrants. Sweden is the only country where the children to immigrants have rights to study their parents language and traditions in school. Hakan At 09:00 PM 4/11/2003 +0000, you wrote: >The Swedes also have a much more homogeneous population. Many of the >difficulties in the U.S. come from the 'melting pot.' However, it is also one >of the U.S.s strengths. But, if you are constantly bringing on board people >with few recourses and who are poorly educated, it takes a bit to get them >caught up. These subpopulations in our inner cities, etc., will distort >statistics on infant mortality, etc., as in the studies that Hakan quoted. > >At the same time, I feel that the U.S. can and should do much better. I am >from the States, but have spent a lot of time overseas. There is a lot >that we >could learn from Europe and elsewhere - and vice versa. I first went to live >in Spain in 1978. I saw many things that I felt they could do better, but >overall, I decided that the majority of what I was seeing was actually done >better than what we did. We certainly shouldn't be cocky that we have all the >answers. > >I know of some Swedes who wish that their taxes weren't so high. But, then, >they get a lot back from their taxes. I certainly wish that a higher >percentage of our own U.S. taxes went to domestic programs rather than to >military budgets. > >Best to all, > >Derek > >Derek > > I would not consider a socialist country like Sweden to be superior to the > > USA. Swede's may not concur. Americans I know who have moved there, and > > Swedes that have moved here, both say that each has it's moments. > > > > > > Steve Spence > > Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter > > & Discussion Boards. Read about Sustainable Technology: > > http://www.green-trust.org > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Hakan Falk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 3:20 PM > > Subject: Re: [biofuel] Bringing democracy to Sweden > > > > > > > > > > MH, > > > > > > I expected to hear from you, after reading the links > > > I gave you, especially if you looked at this document, > > > > > > http://hdr.undp.org/reports/global/2002/en/pdf/backone.pdf > > > Human developing index > > > > > > If you go through it, you will find that the "Swedish democracy" > > > is superior than the "American democracy" on some minor > > > issues as social security, human rights, children labor, corruption, > > > equality between sexes, education, wealth gap, etc. That is why > > > I think it is more difficult to impose "American democracy" in > > > Sweden than in Iraq, contrary to the US administration perception. > > > But who knows, military superiority can change most things and > > > we cannot have something that is better than the American can > > > we? I guess that Sweden must be liberated also. > > > > > > Hakan > > > > > > At 10:46 PM 4/10/2003 +0200, you wrote: > > > > > > >MH, > > > > > > > >http://www.transparency.org/cpi/2002/cpi2002.en.html > > > >Sorry, 2001 list the Netherlands was on shared 5 with Sweden, > > > >now it is Singapore. > > > > > > > >http://hdr.undp.org/reports/global/2002/en/pdf/backone.pdf > > > >Human developing index > > > > > > > >http://hdr.undp.org/reports/default.cfm > > > >Human development reports. > > > > > > > >Hakan > > > > > > > > > > > >At 02:49 PM 4/10/2003 -0500, you wrote: > > > > > > I had a moment filled with laugh and anger when I looked > > > > > > at an CNN interview with a high ranking US official. This > > > > > > enlightened idiot said "it is one thing to bring democracy > > > > > > to a country like Sweden, but more difficult to a country > > > > > > like Iraq". As democracy Sweden is known as one of the > > > > > > oldest and best in the world and is in the fifth place, together > > > > > > with the Netherlands, of least corrupted countries in the world. > > > > > > US is in 16th place, far closer to Nigeria who is the worst. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hakan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey Hakan where do I found this ranking report ? > > > > > Details, details more details please. 8^} > > > > > Thank you! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > > >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > > > > > > >Biofuels list archives: > > > >http://archive.nnytech.net/ > > > > > > > >Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > > > >To unsubscribe, send an email to: > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! 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